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Transport Manager on BLUELINE TAXIS (NEWCASTLE) LIMITED v THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
Right NT Hack Driver, Let me ask you to wait until the Paperwork from District Judge Stephen Earl is produced by...Nt hack driver on BLUELINE TAXIS (NEWCASTLE) LIMITED v THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
Yes I do know the law on seatbelts the point am making it has got nowt to with the case...Transport Manager on BLUELINE TAXIS (NEWCASTLE) LIMITED v THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
NT Hack Driver, The problem with you is you clearly do not know that what me & David have just established...Nt hack driver on BLUELINE TAXIS (NEWCASTLE) LIMITED v THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
WTF ??? U on seatbelts ??? I think man in White coat will be coming 4 u sooner than u...David Wilson on BLUELINE TAXIS (NEWCASTLE) LIMITED v THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
Transport Manager, The answer is simple, but establishes nothing in relation to the issues in the case! A hackney carriage driver is...Transport Manager on BLUELINE TAXIS (NEWCASTLE) LIMITED v THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
Mr Shanks, Mr Wilson & Private Hire Driver. If a Hackney Carriage Driver is driving a Berwick upon Tweed or any...privatehiredriver on BLUELINE TAXIS (NEWCASTLE) LIMITED v THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
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Anyone can put a top sign on his/her car,so long as whatever is on that sign is not offensive,the sign can read what it likes….thats the theory, BUT…..if the roof sign advertises the fact that the vehicle is a `taxi` or whatever,then I have always understood that the vehicle owner must have a `license`,if required to operate as such.
Therefore,if the vehicle is advertising the fact it is a `taxi`,but no `plate` or license is held,then that is illegal.
Come on Mr Plod…you have already successfully proscecuted 1 operator in the Dudley area for not displaying the required plate on the vehicle,so why not `DO` a few more.
There are plenty to choose from….even 1 plate I saw tonight,tuesday 6th Jan 2009,in Percy St,looked a bit sus…lying on the back shelf.
I may be wrong…couldnt get close enough to tell,but looked a much brighter red than most `Derwentside` plates…on a dark coloured passat,no door stickers,but roof sign.
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Its the same old story innit ? New years eve i was outside Sammy Jacks in Tynemouth, Black Passat reg, ********* plate on show Blyth Valley front door stickers on waiting for a job ! Was it a genuine Taxi or not ? Who no”s !!! or shud i say who cares obviously not the council……
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
Regarding the Blyth Hackney Carriage, strange as it maybe Blyth Valley Council has a policy for an unknown reason of issueing you with a document that must be kept in your vehicle to produce to the police if need be while your plate is being made. Blyth Valley Council send your details away for a private company to make your plate. You can wait anything from 3 weeks to whenever. It is not unusual to wait several months for a plate believe it or not. In reference to this vehicle it works for Union Taxis phone no. 01670 540340 who will verify it is genuine or Blyth Taxis Licensing 01670 542218. I hope someone takes the time to contact the above people because it does seem a very odd practice to me as the police have complained for years regarding this matter and since people have seen fit to post this chaps registration on this site of a driver who has driven for many years with no consideration to the drivers well being as anyone could read this and basically make a be line for him when he is outside of Blyth in my opinion is apalling. It just goes to show this constant obsession that people have on this site about other taxis everytime they are seen outside their area. They must be flimping or stealing your work. If you have ever had the pleasure of working in Blyth you will know you do not need to leave Blyth to go flimping in Tyneside. That just would not be logical. Moral of the story professional taxi drivers must stick together and we must get our facts right at all times before we acuse anyone.
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
@Jimmy from Blyth, Jimmy I have removed this Drivers Reg.No. from the Comment,now that it has served it’s purpose. If this had not been done you would have not felt the need to educate the rest of us and the next comment after yours would not have come to light explaining that Blyth Valley is actually breaking the Law.To my mind the Councils are more prone to breaking Licensing laws than hard working Taxi drivers and they need to know that the Taxi trade is not happy about this.
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@Jimmy from Blyth, We are as you say “professional Taxi drivers” or some of us are anyway, that is why when we see a “Taxi” driving around our area we take notice especially when it doesnt have a plate on show, how are we to no that it isnt a bogus Taxi and just hanging around trying to pick up someones daughter, so excuse me for bringing this to light you obviously no the chap so he is a proper Taxi driver thank you for clarifying that. Had i went to the council with this then no doubt i would have been fobbed off with the answer saying they would look into it ha ha thats a laugh your right, so there you go thats why i posted it on here
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@JIMMY FROM BLYTH
I WRITE BELOW THE EXACT EXTRACTION FROM THE ACT OF PARLIMENT, (WORD FOR WORD) PROVING BLYTH VALLEY COUNCIL ARE BREAKING THE ACT OF PARLIAMENT BY TELLING A HACKNEY CARRIAGE PROPRIETOR/DRIVER TO OPERATE WITHOUT SUPPLYING THE CORRECT PLATE TO DISPLAY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE VEHICLE THAT MUST BE DISPLAYED AT ALL TIMES ONCE LICENSED BY COUNCIL TO BE “LET ON HIRE” IN ANY SITUATION!!!!
(NORTHUMBRIA POLICE MUST PROSECUTE BLYTH VALLY COUNCIL LICENSING DEPARTMENT INSTEAD OF PROPRIETOR IMMEDIATELY, AS THEY ARE TELLING DRIVERS TO BREAK THE LAW AND THE DRIVER HAS A LETTER TO PROVE THEY ARE NOT GUILTY, IF THIS IS THE COUNCIL POLICY ACCORDING TO JIMMY FROM BLYTH)
Town Police Clauses Act 1847
NUMBER OF PERSONS TO BE CARRIED IN A HACKNEY CARRIAGE TO BE PAINTED THEREON.
Section 51 states:
No hackney carriage shall be used or employed or let on hire, or shall stand or ply for hire, within the prescribed distance, unless the number of persons to be carried by such hackney carriage, in words at lenght, and in form following,(that is to say)
“To carry persons”.
be painted on a plate placed on some conspicuous place on the outside of such hackney carriage, and in legible letters, so as to be clearly distinguishable from the colour of the ground whereon the same are painted, one inch in lenght, and of a proportionate breadth; and the driver of such hackney carriage shall not be required to carry in or by such hackney carriage a greater number of persons than the number painted thereon.
PENALTY FOR NEGLECT TO EXHIBIT THE NUMBER, OR FOR REFUSAL TO CARRY THE PRESCRIBED NUMBER
Section 52 states:
If the proprietor of any hackney carriage permits the same to be used, employed, or let to hire, or if any person stand or ply for hire with such carriage, without having the number of persons to be carried thereby painted and exhibited in a manner aforesaid, or if the driver of any such hackney carriage refuse, when required by the hirer thereof, to carry in or by such hackney carriage the number of persons painted thereon, or any less number, every proprietor or driver so offending shall be liable to a penalty not exceeding [level 1 on the standard scale].
SECTION 51 AND 52 PROVES A PIECE OF PAPER FOR THE DRIVER TO CARRY WITH THEM INSIDE THE VEHICLE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH ACCORDING TO THE TOWN POLICE CLAUSES ACT 1847, AS THE PLATE MUST BE FITTED AND DISPLAYED AT ALL TIMES FROM THE MINUTE THE HACKNEY CARRIAGE BECOMES A LICENSED VEHICLE TO BE ABLE TO WORK!!!
BLYTH VALLEY COUNCIL JUST LIKE BERWICK-UPON-TWEED IS PART OF THAT WONDERFUL NEW UNITARY NORTHUMBERLAND COUNTY COUNCIL, SO ARE WE SO SUPRISED BY JIMMY`S POSTING ?
TAKE CARE ALL!
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
@thelighthousekeeper, My birth certificate(which the council loves)says i was born in Northumberland!!!!
South to be exact!!!! does that mean i can get a licence for Northumberland?
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@Deka,
Simple answer for you about can you get a Licence for Northumberland?
Ask the Council concerned when it becomes the NEW UNITARY NORTHUMBERLAND COUNTY COUNCIL in April 2009.
MYTH OR TRUTH?
Blyth Valley had a limit of 41 Hackney Carriages until a couple of years ago when they decided to release 4 New Hackney Carriage Licences & all the Applicants who wanted to apply were put into a hat and 4 names were drawn out, but guess what, alledgedly the winners sold the Hackney Carriage Licences within a very short time period of recieving them apparently and perhaps “Jimmy from Blyth” could tell you the full story as I heard this tale second hand.
I believe Blyth Valley is capped at 45 Hackney Carriage Licences currently, but stand to be corrected.
The Town Police Clauses Act 1847 fitting on the OUTSIDE for the PLATE applies to all Councils in the Country not just to Blyth Valley.
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Totally agree with what everyone has to say and I am well aware of the policies. It seems unbelievable that any council would allow any vehicle to be on the reoad without any identification marking whatsoever except for the Blyth Valley council sign on the door. You can hardly see these anyway. If the customer wants to complain about you she is hardly going to ask to see your letter from the council with your plate number on. It is time every council was forced to work under the same umbrella and bring the taxi industry into the 20th century. My thanks to the admin for removing the chaps registration as in this particular incident he was the good guy.
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As far as i have always been told by Newcastle council,it is the norm for a council to let the hack/ph carry on business as long as he has the receipt to prove that eithier the plate or drivers licence is paid for!
This is the way Newcastle operate anyway?
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@Deka, well lads its my night off but i sure wish you all the best and i am prraying…
By the way rugby is much cooler than soccer…oh oh here we go!
neee way am i a brown nose!!!!!
Basterd hacks fook me!
the patter stinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
@Deka, In North Tyneside you can’t use your car as a Taxi or Pri.Hire until the Plate is firmly affixed to the rear of the vehicle. If you’re a Hack you will get a letter within minutes of hittin the streets with no plate,if you’re Pri.Hire you will get away with it for about six months mebbes longer if you stick it in the back window.
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Plenty of these newly registered cars without plates running around blyth at the moment.
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
Yes Mr Lighthouse keeper concerning the issue of the hackney plates in Blyth Valley this is true. Top man. Here’s what happened and I would be interested in your thoughts regarding this. We have a system in Blyth where you have a dual badge for Taxi/Private hire. The council wrote to every driver in the Blyth Valley telling them they could make an application for a W Plate. There were 4 available and your name would be put into a hat and then 4 drawn out in the presence of other taxi drivers/operators. To this day I know every driver by site at least and have never came across anyone yet that was asked to witness this? One of the conditions to issue these plates, was you had so many weeks (I cannot remember how many) to produce a brand new purpose built disabled vehicle (no Doblos permitted). Guess what? The biggest taxi company in my area is also a finance company/mortgage company all 4 plates went to his drivers who he gave finance to for new vehicles to put these plates on. Here is the bomb shell. The minute the plates went on to these vehicles and paperwork exchanged hands with the council they then became the owners property. He then gave each man a £1000 which covered the deposits for the vehicles so technically he payed £1000 to buy each plate. It also emerged that lots of drivers had not even been contacted by the council and did not even know they could apply. The council on the 2nd year were supposed to give out another 4 and failed to do so. The most annoying part in all of this before all these plates were issued the council was advised by drivers and operators that this would happen and we were ingnored. All these plates went to the big companies drivers and the little operators did not even get a look in. Believe me I could go on all day about our council.
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@Jimmy from Blyth,
Pheonix are just a BLT in Northumberland, big and dominant!
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Yes my friend,Pheonix Taxis are a large dominent company in Blyth and have been for many years,along with Target.However,as far as I am aware,both Pheonix and Target employ Blyth borough council licensed drivers and cars,they dont use out of area cars to look like `taxis`so they can operate in an area without the appropriate license,as a particular 2 companies do in Newcastle.
Also,another large company,Dean Taxis in Gateshead,they might be a large operator,BUT as far as i have seen,they also only employ locally licensed (Gateshead borough licensed)drivers.
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@Jimmy from Blyth,
Jimmy sorry but the 4 Plates issue has happened and nothing will now be done about it.
I suggest that you visit http://www.blythvalley.gov.uk and click on the A-Z across the top of the website page on C then look for Councillors and follow the links then contact as many Councillors as you can and tell them Blyth Valley is breaking the law in relation to the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 Section 51 & 52 because many Councillors will not know this is happening and they will question the Licensing Department about why they are breaking the law and the OFFICERS will be held accountable for their actions or lack of them.
You will be amased at how many Councillors have not been made aware of the Council Licensing Department Officers failing and they can then set-up an instant meeting to suspend the issuing of the paper copy to the driver and ensure NO Hackney Carriage Vehicles ever operate without the NEW PLATE AFFIXED TO THE REAR OF THE VEHICLE to comply with the 1847 Act in law.
Hope this helps you Jimmy.
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Funny how the admin hasn’t done an “are these taxi drivers?” shown his Hack driver mates from the sites gallery who dont have their badges around their necks/ on their person as per council rules! its all about the selective enforcement
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@SC, SC, Yer a little Tinker you are! You keep coming up with these little gems don’t you? Get yer Camera out and send some pics in of naughty Hacks, I can’t do everything for you!
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@Admin,
You Have all ready taken the photos of the “naughty Hacks” but here are your links so you can get started with an “are these taxi drivers?”
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30296040@N06/2838162142/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toomanytaxis/2837322789/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toomanytaxis/2930289204/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toomanytaxis/2907937253/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toomanytaxis/2904991937/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toomanytaxis/2905834398/
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
@SC, Agreed. Just supply your full name as Author of the ‘Are these Taxi Driver’s Page’ and I will build it. Most people know me by name and you only have to ask around a bit to find out who I am. This site lets you enjoy anonimity.If you want to forego that anonimity,feel free and I will dedicate a Hack Bashing page entirely to you. Until then, It’s my Football and I say who plays with it!
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@Admin, I am not hiding behind the anonymity of this site as I have registered using my real name and real email address. Its not about “Hack bashing” I am just pointing out that the Hacks a far from perfect as proven in your own photos, yet as per its over looked.
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
@SC, Im very sorry if you dont agree with the stance on anonymity that admin gives on this site but in my oppinion that allows drivers to say what they want & not have the fear of being bullied down to stay quiet or hounded by the L/A for saying what they want.When in most cases drivers are only pointing out the law.And if this site can make the L/A do there job then that is a good thing for us all or would you rather your daughter get in a unlicensed vehicle with the chance of being raped.
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade@SC, SC your name does not appear anywhere on this site,not even in the admin page and I don’t share email addresses.I can’t do everything mate the site belongs to whoever comes here,there are pictures of Hack drivers within & linked to this site who are not wearing their badges,they are ‘not’ overlooked as you yourself managed to find them and point them out. I’m happy for you to do that but don’t then turn it around to make out there is anything one sided about this.Those pictures were there for anyone to see a long time before many of the other images on this site.Images are viewed through their popularity and it seems images of Cars without plates are more popular than Drivers minus Badges in view.
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade@SC, admin wont take photos of the polaroid brigade flouting the law.how many noticed the north tyneside hack working whitley last night with no plate on vehicle?it wasnt even on parcel shelf/back window where its normally is.its a case of double standards.the plate number it shouldve been displaying is 011.he-ll be out again now working illegally..
p.s its an offence to use a mobile phone whilst driving so taking photos of cars without a plate on should only be done when you stationary or in fact when keys are outve ignition
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@white lines, Hey Spineless,how are you? you should’ve took a pic and sent it in. I’m sick of tellin you. this site doesn’t make accusations it takes pics and shows them.You take pics and I’ll show them, Hack, Pri.Hire or whoever. No double standards here,if you are a detriment to the entire trade this is the place to be named & shamed. Don’t believe me? Try me!
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
@white lines, Hello its me plate 011, (Anth) the reason my plate wasnt on the back of my car was because believe it or not it fell off and so is probably lying around the street in W Bay so thanks to everyone who noticed it was off for telling me on the night,had it of been me seing someone else with their plate missing i would have told them not to be funny but to let them no.And for your infomation i didnt notice my plate was missing untill i got home so therefore no i didnt work the next day illegally……im off to the coooncil to get a new plate now byyyee
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@Anth, You might get your bum smacked of Cab women are you not scared because I would be.
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@white lines, Hey vincey what’s that about Mobile phones? You manage to Text an Drive all the time!
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Any 1 no if the NTHCA is still going ?i was a member up till the end of the year 08 ? but ive never heard a thing since i last paid my fee`s in jan08 ,or is it now just a very small exclusive club for the small few,if so seems even a assosiation that was set up a very long time ago to help protect the trade, has now turned its back on its own,
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Maybe they don’t want you as a member as they only ever liked members in the past who just paid over there money but never spoke out or had opinions them selves. That included never being told what was going on in the back ground. Phrase that springs to mind is it’s in hand. So you could be right T.C or they could be hoping the last 15 members drop out so they can donate whets left of the funds to charity.
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wile on subject of illegal parking/plates and all that I see from cooncils website http://www.northtyneside.gov.uk/pls/portal/NTC_PSCM.PSCM_Web.download?p_ID=29330
that tynemouth rank only grafts 8pm til 8am.if thats right maybe the illegal parkers can use mcdonalds rank before that
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@concernedoperator, fills you with confidence in the council where they state on their website “the borough providing spaces for a total of ninety-four vehicles” yet in their own list on the next page they only show 84 rank spaces?
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What’s yer point? and looking at ‘Coonsil’website it mentions a Rank at the International Ferry Terminal maybe illegal parkers can park there! Dimwit!
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@Proper Hack, point is some drivers want rules but choose to ignore rules when it suits. dimwit
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@concernedoperator, Fair enough Numbnuts but the council issues 205 licences and only provides 84 Rank spaces.Of those 84 most are now defunct: Borough rd,the jungle,the plaza,parks night club,ferry terminal,fish quay,ice rink,percy main metro,the anson (Blt/Berwick rank)four lane ends metro,wallsend High street. So in effect there are probably less than 25 Rank spaces for 205 cars.Meanwhile Private Hire park anywhere they like when the law explicitly states that they must have off street parking to return to when not actually hired.The Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA)Will tell you this as a concerned operator.
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
@N/H driver, where did I say I dont agree with the level anonymity that the admin has set on the site? As I have stated I have registered using my correct name and give a my current email address? had I not agreed I would not have done this! I am anonymous as far as my user name is SC, but the admin has my details?
As for your statement “would you rather your daughter get in a unlicensed vehicle with the chance of being raped” I think you may need to look over previous posts from myself, I am actively encouraging holding LA to account for their lack of enforcement! I currently have 5 FOA request on going with Newcastle, North Tyneside and Berwick councils
The views expressed in this site do not necessarily reflect the views of TooManyTaxis or the general U.K. Hackney Carriage Trade
@SC, I apologise SC if I got it wrong. But stand by what I said that not everyone wants to give there ID away for what ever reasons & that is why this is a great site for drivers who want to have there say without fear of reprisals or the LA having it in for the drivers that have to much to say. And if that means photos to help the LA in there job then that’s a good thing.
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