Comment of The Week:A Desk Clerks View

by Site Admin. on March 19, 2009 · 152 comments

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Hi Everyone,

How about it from a desk clerks point of view!!!!!!!

GET REAL Mr Shanks!!!!!!!

Training drivers and taking them on the roads a few times a taxi driver doth not make!!!!!!!

How you can even justify what your office is doing to get these drivers on the road is downright rubbish. I have been a desk clerk for a number of years now and I’m not the only one to say that we are sick to death of mollycodling drivers who can’t speak the queens english to a pub with neon signs outside it never mind an obscure address in out of area place!!!!!!!

Stop insulting our intelligence. How your poor staff cope I can’t imagine!!!! And before u say they cope well DON’T BOTHER because I don’t believe you.

Get A GRIP on reality!!!

I want to know my children are getting into a car with not only a properly licenced driver but also someone who knows where they are going and can be understood!

Stop thinking about LSD(no not the drug) and put things into perspective.

Oh and by the way for a seemingly intelligent man your use of the english language is appalling you don’t come from Poland yourself do you? I suppose it would answer a lot of questions if you did!!!!

From:  NO1DESKY

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MB 27 March 20, 2009 at 1:42 pm

@ NO1DESKY
Its nice to see and hear that the desk clarks are getting involved with the discusions on this site.
Alot of drivers believe that the desk is full of muppets that don’t give a shit and by coming on this site and leaving a passionate statement you have showed your worth. Well done and keep your comments flowing.

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Am133 March 20, 2009 at 7:45 pm

@NO1DESKY,
Well said, good to know that there is an intelligent desky out there , welcome to toomanytaxis and hope you enjoy your time here
Am133

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Brutally_Honest March 21, 2009 at 2:03 am

mr shanks is a half wit

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john dodds March 22, 2009 at 5:44 am

Ian Shanks has never been interseted in anything about the taxi business,other than how to make himself a very wealthy man by what ever means it takes.
The reason for importing what was cheap labour from europe,was because he couldnt get local labour to work for the money on offer,and to work the hours required to make a living on his rates.
These poor poles fell nicely for it,nor knowing the area,the currency or running costs.
I`m glad to see an office clerk on here,they must get sick of directing drivers round the area,when the driver hasnt got a clue.
Like the driver who told a squddie that Albermarle barracks didnt exist because it wasnt on his satnav.
Well its only been therwe since the summer of 1940 when it was RAF Ouston.operating Hurricanes and Spitfires,before the army took it over and made it what it is now.
Incidentally,MOD are not listed on maps,for security reasons,but,had the driver known the area for a few years,it is marked as `would you believe`….a dissuse airfield….wonder who put that there….forgot to tell Blue Lines superior drivers…..

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Ian shanks March 22, 2009 at 1:44 pm

@john dodds,

and of course you would know !!!

what exactly have you contributed to the taxi trade ?

or you just worked for yourself and yourself only ?

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MB 27 March 22, 2009 at 2:54 pm

@Ian shanks,

What exactly have you contributed to the taxi trade?

Why do you need to have so many out of town plates?

Is it because alot of your drivers couldn’t pass a locality?

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ian shanks March 22, 2009 at 6:27 pm

@MB 27,

What exactly have you contributed to the taxi trade?

Employment to hundreds of people ???

a service to tens of thousands of people ???

Why do you need to have so many out of town plates?

i don’t if local councils would not be obstructive and issue plates

Is it because a lot of your drivers couldn’t’t pass a locality?

no its not as many of my drivers are existing locally badged drivers who have chose to go to berwick because of poor local service

i feel my self repeating myself time and time again to you people and it is getting slightly boring.

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john dodds March 22, 2009 at 5:24 pm

In your eyes probably nothing at all Ian,BUT,what have you done.
Nearly destroyed the living of many good drivers by flooding Newcastle and the surrounding areas with out of area plates,who assume that they are above the law and cannot be touched by enforcement.
Don`t tell me you no longer conduct tests on behalf of your friend on Berwick council,nearly 1000 out of area plates now.
Drivers that have no idea where they are going,whether they work for you or not,you and your friend Paul Irwin showed them how to exploit the law for their own gain.
How many of your cars are currently working with either no plate on the vehicle,or not displayed on the car.
How many work in your own area,N.Tyne,and how many have no idea where N.Tyne is…not having worked there.
Radio`s given to Gateshead cars principally to work in Newcastle.
So what have you actually done for the trade,other than to walk all over other people,offering cheap fares to undermine other peoples business. You call it business,but competion is when everyone plays by the same rules to offer a better service than your rivals.
Your idea is more like dominate the trade by what ever way is appropriate,for your own gain,which may or may not be good for the customer.
Someday,someone will do the same to you as you do to others,no one is too big to go down.
As I tell alot of people who ask why I wont go from haymarket to whitley bay,for £10,as either Blue Line,or your friend apparently do as a set fare,`if you pay peanuts,you will get monkeys`.Or do you prefer monkeys who do what they are told,without question.

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ian shanks March 22, 2009 at 6:40 pm

@john dodds,

john because i don’t choose to make my living the same way as you do, does that make it wrong

do you really think that the only way to be a taxi service is sitting in your car waiting for customers to come to you ??

come on john you and some others need to start realising there is more to the taxi and transport system we provide than just you hacks ! and you don’t have a god forsaken right because you have red discs on your doors that people must use you and only you when they are out in the town. don’t forget we bring them in so we get the chance to get the booking to take them home which is where the hacks fail

if we provide a poor service we will of course not get custom, nor would any business maybe its because of your high rates which causes the hacks to be avoided when people choose
their route to get home ??

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Andy Warhol March 22, 2009 at 8:16 pm

@ian shanks,

you’ve just contradicted yourself …. again. is this old age settling in ian?

firstly you say that you use the out of town plates as
“i don’t if local councils would not be obstructive and issue plates”

and then straight after claim the following …
“no its not as many of my drivers are existing locally badged drivers who have chose to go to berwick because of poor local service”

then if thats the case then they already had plates eh ian? but i dont beilieve point 2!

we’ve had all this out, and quite simply YOU wanted to expand your business,,, fast, the out of town scenario provided you a quick backdoor route to do this en mass, with potential drivers facing next to NO vehicle or Driving restrictions. You probably weighed up the damage it may do to BLT, and probably thought that within a few months the drivers will get a bit of knowledge, those customers who said they were not comming back for the driver got lost WILL come back, as MOST other offices are following the same trend!

You dont care about the drivers who work long hours to make ends meet, just the initial profit at the end of the week, and the blue line monster …

… but in all hounesty, how many people on here would do the same if they were in ian’s shoes?

but enough about that! at this moment, NODA are doing there utmost to damage our trade and the council seem intent to sit back and let them! WHEN ARE NEWCASTLE GOING TO STOP THE ILLEGAL RANK ON NEWBRIDGE STREET?

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smudger March 22, 2009 at 11:08 pm

@john dodds,First of all john you need to do your homework and get facts right before you make quotes about blueline “apparently” doing set fares to whitley bay for £10 as that is another load of tosh.

Secondly john your comment about paying monkeys peanuts is derogatory to the lads who work at blueline as a hell of a lot have been with blueline for a long time and we all started there through choice.

Also john there is a few ex newcastle hackdrivers who have joined blueline simply because they had the foresight to see that the escalating fares of a hackney journey was spiralling way too high and got fed up of sitting on a rank with their finger up their jack.

Anyway Mr Dodds the next time i see you parked up chatting on your marine radio i will quite happily give you a packet of nuts to keep you occupied.

Regards

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smudger March 23, 2009 at 3:31 am

@john dodds, Also Mr dodds you call blueline for not playing on a level playing field regarding fares etc!.In yet you are one of the people who is always bashing on for cheaper rent?.
Come on john double standards or what?????

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Paul March 22, 2009 at 3:25 pm

Well our taxi trade seems to have reached a point of lunacy that is unequalled in the history of our trade. We have the Government ‘think tanks’ who advise that local authorities should de-limit. We have the scenario of hundred’s of Taxis looking for spaces in Newcastle, only to find yellow lines and yellow caps issuing tickets. In Gateshead, we have a town with no night time trade. 450 Hacks though, more than double the number in Sunderland, the regions largest city by population!

Then there are the ‘out of town’ cars and drivers. If I were an office proprietor then maybe I would have exploited the same loop holes (well, actually on reflection, I would not, as I would like to think I would take a pride in my fleet and service.) Blue Line do a lot of advertising to convey a different message to the public, as is necessary when you are operating on the limits of decency.

1st January, 2010. All Hackney Carriage drivers report to their local council with proof of address, their taxi plate, and their badge. From this date, all councils will cease to ‘run’ the taxi trade. Nationwide rules will apply. Plates belong to the new organisation (as they belong to the council’s now) You either work your new plate or hand it in. Not transferable. Same fares, all areas. Same rules. Clarity. Transparancy. With that would come increased trust for the public.

Don’t worry, this is not going to happen, but something as radical does need to be on the agenda.
We are in a recession, people losing jobs all over the place, and as a consequence there will be a dramatic increase in people wanting to drive private hire and hacks. In deregulated areas this is just another nail in the coffin. At the offices, the proprietors will be rubbing their hands at the thought of these taxi ‘virgins’ coming online. Oh how they will regret ever getting into this trade!

So where do we go from here? Buggered if I know!!

You didn’t think I was going to give you the answer did you?

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geordie boy March 22, 2009 at 11:38 pm

mr shanks is no better than those failing bankers, they get rewarded for shafting the decent people, i hope your proud shanksy without your father you would have worked in macdonalds. i would rather be skint and popular than rich and detested,i have a wife that loves me and i am skint, your wife would leave you if you were skint, you only come on here because you have nothing better to do, your money is serving you well.you only got where you are because of the spineless council or should i say the blueline pound rich council.

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Stephen (FKA Central Enth.) March 23, 2009 at 3:53 am

Andy Warhol & John Dodds!
Last night I had a Booking from the Carling Academy, I was 5 mins early, at the Pizza Shop accross the Road a young Couple were fighting outside and next to a NODA Hack, anyway the Lad whacked the Lass and two Lads grabbed the Lad and dragged him away.
The Lass came over to me all Crying and upset and asked if I could take her down to the Broadway at the bottom of Beach Road Tynemouth for £17, as that’s all she had, because her Boyfriend had the cash but he had left her after he hit her!
I said “sorry, I’m booked”, but I said if you ask that Hack (The NODA Hack still sitting empty) nicely he may take you as you are just going down one straight road all the way and he is doing nowt at the minute!
So off she went!
I lowered my Window so I could hear if he said yes or not, to my horror, the Lass explained nicely to him what had happened and he stated that he had seen her being hit, so she asked him if he could take her just basically straight down the Coast Road for £17, do you know what he said to her????, he COULD of said NO!, he COULD of said YES!, he could of said I will take you close as I can, but he said YES!, if you suck my C**k, that’s GREAT impression of the Taxi Trade!, he did’nt need her he was a W*nker!!!
Anyway I give her my Office Number and Central’s and Eastcoast, and informed her they will take her for £11 – £11.50!, whoever she could get.
NO WONDER THEIR IS SO MANY OUT OF TOWN CARS IN TOWN WITH ATTITUDES LIKE THAT!
AND Sunday Evening!………
Newcastle Hack drops off in Whitley Bay, and is flagged down so he picks up a Lass and takes her to Tynemouth (Yes, he was followed), and the cheeky Flimper grabs another Punter and takes her to North Shields!, this sad greedy Flimper was caught by Bread Van Man from this site!!!, the Toon HAck Driver thought that this was acceptable.
Anyway here is his details: Black Doblo, Reg NM06 EYR, Plate No. W356, the Driver was Asian.
OH and finally last night a Toon Hack and PH were too busy watching a BLT Berwick Car sitting close by when a Blue Mazda 6 (Not any kind of Licensed Vehicle) picked up two very yound Girls, lets hope they got home safely!
Regards
Stephen

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NEWCASTLE HACK March 23, 2009 at 11:14 am

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.), It,s amazsing how you get the reg of the doblo in tynemouth but not the reg of the newcastle hack at the Carling Academy.Allso you must have ears like spark to have heard what was said.And if you did hear what was said & have not reported the incident then you are guilty of allowing this sort of thing to go on.One thing I do no is if this had been John Dodds who had witnessed this he would have got of his arse and done something about it.This is why so many of these idiots get away with it.STAND UP & BE COUNTED.

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Stephen (FKA Central Enth.) March 23, 2009 at 1:33 pm

@NEWCASTLE HACK,
You lot do the same!, your out Blueline spotting all night when, serious wrong doings are going on, like completely unlicensed Cars picking up Drunk young Lasses, Boy Racers/Chavs taking people home for cash, unlicensed Drivers driving LICENSED Vehicles, them Doblo Hacks are renowed for doing this, getting their Asian Brothers or Uncles to Drive their Cars etc.
BUT ALL OF US ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN WHO IS NICKING OUR WORK, YES I AGREE IT’S WRONG AND ALL SHOULD BE NAMED AND SHAMED.
If we see all this going on, you must!
Anyway where was this John “get off his arse” Dodds the night Newcastle played Manchester Utd two weeks ago eh???, I was so disgusted that I went and asked the Hacks at Munchies to get themselves along to the Co-op because their was a blatant Flimping fest of Berwick Cars just Ranking up and organising a Que of Fans and revellers, but the Toon Hacks did’nt want to know, I had two Bookings to the Coast nicked by them, I was annoyed that the legit Hacks were doing nowt at Munchies and went and told them, but they could’nt care!
Look at our Hacks (North Tyneside) I reckon if it had been at the Coast they would have at least taken a Photo of them and sent them to the Council and stuck them on here!!
Regards
Stephen

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thelighthousekeeper March 23, 2009 at 2:02 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),

Maybe Stephen it is time for all Hackney Carriages in North Tyneside to have CCTV Camera`s fitted allowing the Hackney Carriage Taxi to capture what is happening instead of it being heresay, give a front camera view of what is happening and a rear camera view of what is happening and even a camera inside the vehicle to capture every passenger travelling, just like the Bus and Metro have with prosecutions being then made when offences are recorded??????

I am all for CCTV Camera`s myself, as I do not partisapate in criminal activity, but i think certain sections would lose out on a lot of very high paid work!

Just a thought.

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Andy Warhol March 23, 2009 at 5:16 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),

stephen, your a total pratt,,,

firstly, you managed to hear a full conversation across a road with two engines running, never mind passing traffic and the noise of people passing by!

secondly stephen, when you were dishing your number out to the lady, why didnt you get the drivers number, reg and plate and a description, tell the lady YOU heard what was said and tell her that you will report it to licencing, surely you cannot think that this type of thing should be frowned on eh?
IF IT REALLY HAPPENED!!!

Why is it OUR problem stephen to argue the toss with some boy racer that that is not his lass in the passenger seat and just someone he has picked up!?! THIS IS THE JOB OF ENFORCEMENT!!!

Stephen, once again how the f**k (sorry admin) can you tell if a driver has a badge or not! What you think ALL taxi drivers sit in the house of a weekend and let someone else go to work for them! And believe you and me mate, thats the ONLY enforcement in this city, the checking of hackney badges and vehicles!

Your a first class pratt stephen, with slanderous comments to the hackeney trade, with ZERO evidence to back any of this up!

Why is it that YOU spend SO much time in Newcastle City Centre, and always commenting on here about how flimping should be stopped, are you trying to divert us away from what you really get up to?

and your STORY is very convienent, after one of NT’s famous flimpers was shown up on here for what he really was.

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LD79 March 23, 2009 at 5:34 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.), You could also have taken a photo of this so called Noda Hack! There’s not many hacks work for Noda, maybe your confused with the station Hacks, they’ve got nothing to do with Noda. Seems you have some major issues with Noda for some reason, prehaps you were the North tyneside driver who came for a radio saying “I’m a hack I can work anywhere” and was told not at this office son, if you want to work here get a Newcastle plate.

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BREAD VAN MAN March 24, 2009 at 8:54 am

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),
Stephen, Just to cofirm that yes it was I who saw Newcastle hack flimp in Whitley Bay and go onto Tynemouth. I pulled onto the rank at Tynemouth and saw Newcastle hack pick up another girl and drive off. I followedhim along wit another North Tyneside hack and he drove into North Shields. He obviously did not know where he was going as drove around and around or was that because he knew I was behind!!!!! He stoped at corner of Waldo street and sat for several minutes before passengers got out. I asked the two female passengers where they had come from and they said “Whitley Bay and Tynemouth” NOT Newcastle city!!!! The driver pulled away but stoped further up the road. I did pull along side him and asked very calmly and politely what he was playing at. His reply was that he had picked up the girls in Newcastle!!!! Believe me he had not. I told him what I had saw along with other hack drivers in tynemouth. I took down his reg number and plate number. Im not saying all Newcastle hack drivers would do a trick like this but this driver did and was caught red handed!!!

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john dodds March 28, 2009 at 5:28 am

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.), I have just had your posting brought to my attention concerning a young woman wanting to go to Tynemouth for £17,and the drivers reply.
Firstly,the fare to Billy Mill is approx £15.40/15.60 from there so she would have had enough anyway,also,having been in NODA more than 5 years,I think I can safely say we dont have drivers that would make the sort of comment that has been reported.
However,should this incident be legit,as you were so close to the car to hear what was said,could you give me the plate number and type of vehicle involved,and I shall see that NODA`s management is made aware of it.
If this account is true,to be honest with you,I`m disgusted with your(stephen) behaviour,you should have reported it immediately to the police,and made sure the girl did so too.
We have enough `shite` driving so called taxis in this city,without allowing that to happen.
I only question it because if you were sitting outside the Academy,you were obviously on the nearside of Westgate rd,the other `NODA` car seems to be parked outside the kebab shop or a little way down.Therefore you say you heard this said,did the NODA car have his nearside window open,and was the driver shouting,otherwise I find it difficult to work out how you heard what was said in the car.
Presumably the girl had her back to you as she spoke to the driver…..
As I said though,post the plate number with admin and I guarantee action will be taken.

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l90 March 23, 2009 at 9:57 am

has anyone heard about girl geting assault over the weekend by a blueline driver they got him

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Stephen (FKA Central Enth.) March 23, 2009 at 10:36 pm

Andy Warhol
I heard the conversation because their was little Traffic going down as it was a little jammed up due to Newgate Street being closed!
AND Warhol what gives you and your sorry little mates the only right to complain?
Come down Whitley Bay one Friday night when you are taking a Break from picking on Blueline and see how long the Hack que is in South Parade, we have’nt got SEVEN key Drinking areas to pick up from.
You call me a Pratt, do you ever read again what you write about Blueline, it’s the same old waffle.
OK he may have been a Station Taxi…fair enough, but take it on the Chin.
You lot are no Angels and neither are we, you must get that into your Tunnel Visioned Brain.
You asked a silly question …Why do you spend so much time in the City Centre????
You call the “Bread Van” NT’s famous flimpers, well come on, he has challenged you Lads to approach him when he is parked up so he can show you he has a Legit Booking, Can’t say fairer than that!
If you see me in Town, pop over and check me out, nowt to hide, I survived two days down here as a independent Office free Hack, and had to find a Office, last Tuesday St.Patrick’s day, I worked from 4pm until 01.00am on the NT Ranks for just £26.40p, now one of your Boys did £134.00 in the same time!!!…in Town!
I am driving Plate 104 NT Hack, Skoda Octavia, feel free Boy to check me out if you see me in Town!!!!!
Apoligies Admin for shouting again.
You know you lot would make more money Strawberry picking on a farm than Cherry picking in the Bigg Market!, Oh!, and turning a blind eye to Newcastle based Bandits Flimping!!!!
Now stop being a D*ck and get after those Five Star Derwentside Cars at Pizza Hutt on a Saturday night, taking YOUR work.

Stephen
PS I take it the Doblo named and shamed is one of your mates eh???

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BIG DAVE March 24, 2009 at 4:50 am

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),Your telling us that you only made £26 on st patricks day because its that bad for work in N,Tyneside.Yet you say a Newcastle hack flimped a job in whitly bay on sunday & then got a follow on flimp from tynemouth.Well stephen he must be one hell of a lucky man.Maybe he should get him self to the Cacino.As I know drivers down there how will tell you that never happens as the days of flag downs are long gone.And any one can just take a plate No at random & make up stories.What gives it away is the fact you did not get off your arse & pull these drivers.

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Andy Warhol March 24, 2009 at 3:44 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),

well steven, IF you are telling the truth, you should be ashamed that YOU didnt have the BOTTLE to do the RIGHT thing and REPORT the driver concerned! it’s now on YOUR hands stephen that this driver is still driving round eh?

And Stephen, if your not happy with what you make in NT, do your Newcastle Badge,,, BOY, after all the streets are paved with gold here!

first rule of taxi driving, never believe a punter.
second rule of taxi driving, never believe a fellow driver.
thrid rule of taxi driving, never believe licencing.

stick to them stephen and you will do alright!

And Stephen, has Mr. Shanks adopted you when you went for your visit? does he have some sort of ‘clockwork orange’ brain washing machiene in a broom cupboard in the back! I pose questions to ian, cause firstly i think that they are relevant, and secondly he has the bottle to come on here, sometimes we agree, to an extent, sometimes we dont, whatsoever. thats life, and business.

if noda, fivestar, gateshead central, to name a few, came on here, i’m sure myself, and other hack drivers would throw questions at them!

and the same old waffle! well this IS the taxi trade, and if you ask any of the,,, errrm,,, more MATURE drivers who have been in the trade before WE were born, then i’m sure they will tell you it was the same old waffle back then!

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Stephen (FKA Central Enth.) March 25, 2009 at 1:42 am

@Andy Warhol,
Andy, Admin & Big Dave!
First of all I never said that I am super experienced, because I am not, and yes I need to learn more on the Ranks, because I have done more PH work than Hack….I Admit!
But I do think you all got your Y Fronts in a twist when I mentioned a Hack and named a Flimper!
One thing I do know is a “Out of Town Flimper” is a out town Flimper, so whether he has paid £125 for a Plate from “ANYONE OR THING CAN GET A PLATE.COM in Wallace Green Berwick or he has paid a high five figure sum for a town Plate, the Lad named did flimp, why should that be overlooked?
“Flags”, Their is no Flags during the week in North Tyneside, but weekend nights I have come accross them, but not many, HOWEVER where do the Flimpers get there work???…someone must be after a Taxi!
As for Photo’s on here, has any Council asked for them to follow up a complaint?, would a Photo make any difference?
You have taken a Photo of Bread Van Man, has that solved anything in Town????………Probably not!
PS Andy, “Bottle”, lets see you chase that Derwentside Merc (Silver in Colour) with that hard looking Geezer that drives it as a TOON Hack, he is always just accross from the Vault on a Saturday night, I will get his Number for you this weekend!
Regards
Stephen

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andy warhol March 25, 2009 at 4:01 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),

stephen, yes it obvious that some newcastle hacks will flimp if they get the oppurtunity. But it happens no way on the grand scale that happens to us Newcastle Hacks, and two wrongs doesnt make a right stephen!

secondly, i didnt say chase him, but YOU spoke to the girl involved as you claimed, YOU should have either got the police there and then with her, or arranged to report him to licencing. yet you make a bigger song and dance over a newcastle flimper than the possible sexual assault of a young girl!

and you still have not told me the secret to knowing whether a newcastle driver has a badge by merely looking at them in passing!

photos on here cannot be used as evidence, but DO highlight the extent of the problem, which is all we want to do, let the council know how bad it is down here so they go out and act …

… and stephen, post this “hard looking Geezer’s” details on here, i can either tell him “i am driving Plate 104 NT Hack, Skoda Octavia, feel free Boy to check me out if you see me in Town!!!!!”

or i could just pass the details on to licencing and hope they do there jobs!

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Dangermouse March 25, 2009 at 6:07 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.), if BREAD VAN MAN didnt sit around town with his FOR HIRE light on it wouldnt have aroused suspicion with so many drivers would it?????

How do you know there is a derwentside merc always parked across from the vault? coz your always sitting there too?? after all any sensibile driver wouldnt go that way knowin they would be stuck in the traffic and behind the boy racers going nowhere for half an hour….

I will have a word with plate W356 tonight and post a reply on here, or if you see him first have a word with him and post your comments

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andy warhol March 25, 2009 at 6:19 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),

stepehen it’s inevitable that at some point a newcastle hack, will flimp a job, but newcastle hacks do not do it in the scale that people head into the city every weekend!

and you are still to answer how you can tell by just looking at a hack whether they have a badge or not!

and if anything happened to that girl stephen, you would have had to carry a level of responsibility for it, after all YOU spoke to her, but clearly just to hoy out a few numbers, and not do the right thing and phone the police or arrange to file a complaint to licencing!

and stephen, once again WHY do you sppend so much time in newcastle city centre, i think when enforcement are doing there next ‘sting’ they should look out for bread van man and Plate 104 NT Hack, Skoda Octavia!

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Admin March 24, 2009 at 9:37 am

@BIG DAVE, Spot on! I’m a NT Hack and you would be lucky to get two Flags in a week let alone one after the other,Stephen & Bread Van man if you really saw this Newcastle Hack why not get your phone out,take a pic and send it in and as for Stephen saying he only did £26 on St.Pats Day, Stephen you’re private Hire at heart and havn’t got a clue how to hack,other drivers made 3 times that on that day.

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Stephen (FKA Central Enth.) March 24, 2009 at 11:12 am

@Admin,
You all hate it because someone has dared to name and shame a Newcastle Hack don’t you??
Why??????
BIG DAVE!, Read Admins response, if someone did take a Photo it would’nt go here would it?, because according to you lot Toon Hacks are perfect!!!!!
It’s the same about Eastcoast, it that gets some critics, it don’t go on here!
You all want people to stand together eh???
The Toon Hacks are on to us now (NT) but you lot side them!!, Because their hapless council could’nt deal with Berwick!
ADMIN!
If people jump the que because you drive someone elses Hack or plate, or customers are told they will be ripped off by the Driver that rents the Hack…..then HOW THE F*&K CAN I LEARN EH?
You lot think your all above anyone else because you own a plate, and yet you want unity to shout at the Council!
Stephen

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BIG DAVE March 24, 2009 at 2:28 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),YOU WOULD BE NO GOOD IN COURT GET YOU STORY STRAIGHT. NO YOUR WRONG.About what we want from this council & this web site.there is good & bad in both sides of the trade.That is why this site was set up.To try & help us sort what ever probs there is in the trade.And if that means photos to name & shame then so be it.Any body with half a brain knows that if that helps stop the flimping then it is a benefit to us all in the long term.Being N/T or N/C driver.Lies do not help anyone.And before you come on shouting there not lies.Take a look at your previous postings.First you say it was two separate flimps(whitly then one in tynemouth)And now your saying the same girls when asked came from Whitly & tynemouth on to N, Shields.

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Stephen (FKA Central Enth.) March 24, 2009 at 3:20 pm

@BIG DAVE,
Get your facts right, you have been reading Bread Van Man’s account!
I said it was two Flimps, it was Bread Van man that said it was continued….but still a flimp!
Cannot you not read???
YOU LOT WOULD BE CR*P IN COURT TO!, YOU WOULD GIVE A PH/COMPANY CAR OR RENTED HACK A LIFE SENTENCE AND A OWNER HACK A PAT ON THE BACK FOR THE SAME CRIME!!
NOW I AWAIT TO BE BARRED FROM THIS SITE BY ADMIN FOR DARING TO NAME AND SHAME A HACK!!!, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT YOU WELL GET YOUR COLLEAGUE TO TAKE THE HACK OF ME FOR DARING TO SPEAK OUT!
GOOD AFTERNOON BIG MEN
Stephen

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SC March 24, 2009 at 6:05 pm

@Admin, I get people trying to flag me all the time if am picking up down the coast?

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Mr Angry March 24, 2009 at 3:32 pm

Having been a private hire driver for over 13 years(NT) and taking pride in my job i am getting to the point of thinking why do i bother, the days are getting longer the money getting tighter and the cause of all this, Bloody Berwick Bandit plates when is all of this going to stop.A taxi Driver used to have local knowledge now you can get off the Banana boat or the Emirates flight head for our favourite taxi company and be driving the next day it just bloody madness and boils my piss.I for one will not let my wife get in a taxi if she has doubts about the driver which is becoming ever increasingly too common.

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Am133 March 24, 2009 at 3:47 pm

@Mr Angry,
Well said mate !Three fu*king years it takes on average to pass the knowledge in london all you need up this neck of the woods is a translator to fill a form in for you and your away !!!
Thats a point if they need a translator to fill in the form , how the hell are they supposed to understand instructions from passangers ………… oh yeah thats correct Mr Shanks gives them a sat nav and takes them in a class room (for approx 8 seconds) and learns them how to say “post cooooooddddeeee” ????
a great way to move the trade forward ………. NOT !!!!!

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Admin March 24, 2009 at 8:08 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.), Stephen,please start taking your tablets again!

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Admin March 24, 2009 at 8:10 pm

@SC, I wish I was as wealthy as Ian Shanks and I would issue the same challenge as he, I would offer you a Hack rent free for the week and let you go and get all these Fares.

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tc March 25, 2009 at 6:22 am

is this Claiming hardship to berwick council to keep your license really a means saying you dont pay tax ? & cliam social?

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Mr Angry March 25, 2009 at 8:02 pm

Can anyone tell me if it is illegal for these Berwick Bandit Plates to drive around without a top sign on if so why are they still on the bloody road.

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homersdouble March 25, 2009 at 8:22 pm

@Mr Angry,
well the silver mondeo estate (working for blueline ) with the nice little message about pre booking in the back window never has a top sign on it .

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Ian shanks March 26, 2009 at 7:38 am

@Mr Angry,

initially i did not want to put top signs on my berwick hackneys (working as private hires) because i felt that this made them look like hackneys ! i thought having legally licensed cars but looking like all our other private hires would suffice

Newcastle and north tyneside in there wisdom complained and we were forced to issue all the cars with top signs and make them look like the rest of you !!! Thats what happened !!

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Lost the Plot March 26, 2009 at 11:08 am

@Ian shanks, how wud they be legally licensed when the berwick bylaw says they have to have a top sign on? also when berwick becomes part of northumberland will you let them have berwick hack rates on their meters?

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ian shanks March 26, 2009 at 11:13 am

@Lost the Plot,

like i have said Newcastle and north tyneside and berwick required them to be displayed so they are to be displayed !!

i was i that did not want them on as it made them look as if they could be for hire ! i would have preferred them to have looked like private hires while they were working as private hires

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andy warhol March 26, 2009 at 3:54 pm

@Lost the Plot,

to be hounest Newcastle dont even care that a lot of private hire are now driving round with hackney roof signs with ‘xxx taxis’ on, so why would they care about a berwick with its roofsign on and lit up with Toms Taxi 07941 … …,

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Stephen (FKA Central Enth.) March 26, 2009 at 2:19 am

Andy Warhol
Get enforcement on to me anytime, I have nowt to hide and according to millions of your Posts on here their is bigger Fish to Fry if the Council bother!…in Newcastle!
Unfortunately Andy I have to make my living bidding on those horrid Set fares back to the Coast for £11, I agree they are low, but some nights that’s the best Job you get, often I bid for them from North Shields/Tynemouth/Percy Main etc, sometimes by the time I have battled along Grainger Street my fare has been nicked by another NT Office based Car or Flimper!, but I still wait 6-7 mins and do the ring backs etc!, I “No job”, and on a Saturday late on the Office will send me another, so off I go again and wait somewhere else for 5 mins, one night I had 7 “No Jobs” in a row in Newcastle virtually in the same vicinity, yes I had approaches, but did’nt take them, so generally if the work was good at Coastal Offices I would’nt be up there, believe me I’d rather make my cash around the Doors.
But I will re-iterate, approach me anytime in Town and I will have a Job on the screen.
So Andy you would want me to ring the Police about one of your colleagues???
Do you not think the Lad may have had a bad night and just became abusive, as you say all the Hacks work gets nicked and he may have been P***ed off!
Andy what’s your Car and Plate?, I will report to you everytime I am in Town, and will come and get you if I see any wrong doings!!
May see you this weekend
Regards
Stephen

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andy warhol March 26, 2009 at 3:39 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),

anyone who trys to take advantage of a distressed drunk young girl and try and accustom her to a sexual assault DESERVES to have the police enquire about it,,, and if you cannot see that then you are a bigger moron than you appear on here!

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andy warhol March 26, 2009 at 4:49 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),

someone once said on here that you would be no good in court stephen.

Then god knows what dangerous criminals you would release onto our streets for having a bad day, if you were a judge.

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Stephen (FKA Central Enth.) March 26, 2009 at 5:46 pm

@andy warhol,
How do you know I did’nt report that driver to the Council???
OR
How do you know that I did’nt give what I had seen to those two PH NT Drivers who are gathering Films, Photo’s and other evidence that they want to send into the Evening Chronicle highlighting all that goes on in Town on all sides of the Fence!, within the Taxi Trade.
If you are going to report someone, you don’t want to give them a head start by reading it on here do you?
Sorry Andy I did’nt catch your Vehicle and plate, what was it again so I can ask your permission to come into to Town!
Regards
Stephen

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Admin March 26, 2009 at 10:30 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.), Stephen you are stirring again and stop trying to weedle out peoples identities,people are entitled to be anonymous on this site. I have banned you for a while for talking shite! Namely that I would get your plate taken off you.I thought you knew me better than that!

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andy warhol March 29, 2009 at 6:55 pm

@Stephen (FKA Central Enth.),

“If you are going to report someone, you don’t want to give them a head start by reading it on here do you?”

didnt you tell us that it was a NODA breadvan?

“Photo’s and other evidence that they want to send into the Evening Chronicle highlighting all that goes on in Town on all sides of the Fence!, within the Taxi Trade”

Goodluck!

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NEWCASTLE HACK March 26, 2009 at 5:17 am

COME ON MR SHANKS LETS PLAY THE GAME DIFFRENTLY THIS TIME AS YOU CAN NOT BE TRUSTED TO TELL THE TRUTH.AS THE LAST PRIVATE HIRE YOU WERE ASKED ABOUT MUST HAVE HAD A DOUBLE WITH SAME NO-PLATE WORKING THE TOWN CENTRE OR IT WAS A TIME MACHINE.
THIS TIME ITS 2 BLUE LINE CARS OUT SIDE OF MUNCHIES ON THE HAYMARKET AT 23.50 ON THE 25/3/09
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS THE MAKE & MODEL OF THE CARS & WHERE THERE BOOKING WAS TO.
THEN I WILL LET EVERY ONE NO ON THIS SITE IF YOU KEEP TO YOUR WORD ON TELLING US IF SOMEONE FLIMPED OR NOT FROM YOUR OFFICE.

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andy warhol March 26, 2009 at 3:36 pm

@NEWCASTLE HACK,

very clever way of doing it, ask mr. shanks who was meant to be there first…

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NEWCASTLE HACK March 27, 2009 at 12:28 am

@andy warhol, Yes it,s a great idea.But dont think Mr shanks will reply.As he knows fine well if he,s a man of his word it will mean more drivers for a warning or even the sack.I my self was daft enough to believe what he,s posted on here in the past about about being against the flimping.Yet he cant even reply with the Information that Ive asked for.Thats because he knows I have one driver banged to rights.And will have to be seen to do whats right.As he him seif has said so much about the lack of Inforcement.

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lost the plot March 27, 2009 at 2:26 am

@NEWCASTLE HACK, am not his biggest fan, but blue line do book more then one job at a time from most pick up points and its not like its a hack rank

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ian shanks March 27, 2009 at 1:15 pm

@NEWCASTLE HACK,
now how will i know if you tell the truth ??

anyway from our records i had three cars from munchies at Percy street book at that exact time being cars

ford mondeo NC56 Ovf
Skoda SG54 BVD

Peugeot MD02TAU

but we had a few before and after as well as we do take more than one booking !!!

i will not be doing this on a regular basis just for your satisfaction !!

anyway if it was none of those three you will have to confirm the vehicles to which you seen and i will investigate further to see if they were on duty but taking a break or in fact not working our system at all !!

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NEWCASTLE HACK March 27, 2009 at 7:17 pm

@ian shanks, At the time we are talking about/25/3/09 23.50 there was 2 of your cars there + 1 silver line car now tell me what car had what booking then I will say what was flimped.This is not a game of chess with you .But I have to protect my lively hood as much as you do.It,s hard enough working for as little as £4 & £5 a hour with out your lads or any one else’s stealing are work.Take it from me I have proof & do not wish to play stupped games like this or get any one in trouble as we all have a living to make.

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Ian shanks March 27, 2009 at 8:02 pm

@NEWCASTLE HACK,

i dont play games !! i have told you which cars were booked to be there at that exact time are those the cars you seen or not ??? if so then we can discuss if they picked up the correct fare or not !!!

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lost the plot March 27, 2009 at 8:39 pm

@NEWCASTLE HACK, shit or get off the pot! shankys has said with cars he had there, if its not one of them, name and shame!

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kris March 27, 2009 at 11:00 am

Rewind up the page to Ian’s justification for berwick plates. What constitutes as being ‘obstructive and not issuing plates’ in reference to N/T council? We all know that they charge alot, but is it so difficult to meet their standards for an appropriate vehicle. Do you, Ian Shanks, realisticaly think that a Renault Megane 5dr hatch is really a suitable vehicle as a taxi, coz there’s one working your office. And what about all these after market blackened out rear windows that berwick council deems suitable. The rules set by our council are there in the interests of safety and application and the vast majority of standard saloon cars will be plated if they are mechanicaly sound. It seems to me that entering the taxi trade through our local councils requires some planning ahead, as do most careers, and owning or gaining access to an appropriate vehicle is part of that plan. Berwick offer a ‘quick fix’ way of entering the trade and their standards, for whatever reason, are not as high as the ones which most of us abide by. These thinly veiled attempts at justifying out of town plates just don’t wash. If you are a fit and suitable person and own a farely decent vehicle you will have no problem getting badged and plated at N/T.

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ian shanks March 27, 2009 at 1:00 pm

@kris,

so after a cracking deal is offered to me on 7 top of the range titanium mondeos i should knock them back because the standard glass in the cars does not fit north tynesides standards,
the manufacturers thought it was safe, the department of transport or police dont have any issues with that standard of tint, and insurance company’s are OK with it, but the wisdom committee members who have never seen the cars and have no knowledge of being vehicle inspectors will not wash with me !! sorry mate

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kris March 27, 2009 at 1:46 pm

@ian shanks, From a business point of view i fully understand where you are coming from. I purchased a passat last year and was politely informed by one of the staff at N/T lincensing that if the windows weren’t suitable i could ‘easily just change them’, what a laugh. But it is still moraly wrong that so many of these berwick plated cars are on the roads of N/T. It seems that you are convinced that this is not the case, but surely this is only because the financial rewards are so great that you can’t refuse them. The main reasons that people go to berwick for a badge is because they either can’t be bothered to do a locality test or are too incompitent to pass one. Such a high influx of new and inexperienced drivers in such a short space of time can only damage the taxi trade on the whole. N/T council is not in any way perfect but the answer isn’t just to up sticks and go to berwick.

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ian shanks March 27, 2009 at 5:26 pm

@kris,

lets not assume every driver with a berwick plate is a new driver to the trade as i would GUESS 50% or more or drivers who have had vehicle issues or just cheesed of with the service of the authority they have been with.

this would be proven if your were to ask many of the drivers from around the country such as the man from south wales who had a problem with a Ford transit tourneo ?? and had no other option. to many drivers from to many places other Newcastle have gone this route and its not just because of a locality test. and as i have said what good is a test for a area the driver may only spend a very small percentage of his time in.

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tc March 27, 2009 at 12:25 pm

you`s just dont get it ? the berwick syndrom was to bring in for cheap labour at the expense of proper bonefide n/t badged drivers or newcastle badged drivers, to make more prophit , for wealthy office proprieters

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SC March 27, 2009 at 3:30 pm

@tc, you keep saying “cheap Labour” but as drivers pay to work the office, where is the labour bill of the office? Its extra income for an office to have more drivers, but is not cheap labour (unless you know of an office that pays the drivers an hourly rate)

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Am133 March 27, 2009 at 4:52 pm

@SC, Well according to several Blueline drivers The polish lads were on a wage and returned there full bag minus tips to the office !
Dont know if its still the case but i’ve heard it more than once !!!!!

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SC March 28, 2009 at 11:56 am

@Am133, looks like you have been listening the the Blue Line rumour squad! I not heard that one, things like that would get around very quickly. You’d have to ask yourself why would blue line give a driver a car (i’d assume fule), insurance, no office rent and a wage?

If I remember correctly Ian did pay a few driver to drive some of his cars on the 50th Birthday, but that was so the lucky customers got a free fare as a Birthday gift to from Blue Line!

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NEWCASTLE HACK March 28, 2009 at 5:30 am

Ian the car you want to know about is the bergandy 405.And if you come back saying he was booked to go to Ashington then your telling porkies.

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Ian shanks March 28, 2009 at 7:35 am

@NEWCASTLE HACK,

well you asked me which cars were to be a munchies and i confirmed the cars we had bookings for and he was booked to be there.

without speaking to the driver which i will do, it looks like he was originally booked from KFC which became a no job for him, and his passengers had decided to move to munchies to meet from KFC (maybe fancied a change in dietary needs ?) the driver has moved from KFC to Muchies and made contact with them and took them.

now here’s a challenge !!! you got the balls to come to the office and see the booking records and then apologise ?

andy warhol !! is that a sensible way of doing it or just clever ??

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NEWCASTLE HACK March 28, 2009 at 3:02 pm

@Ian shanks, The driver you need to talk to is the driver of the peugoet MDO2 TAU You will find he had words with a hack driver as he did not wait for his booking we know this for a fact & with proof.What happened was the two blue line drivers were asked if they were booked & replyed yes.Then one lad phoned your office to be told 10 to 15 min wait..Then one was heard to say Im not waiting & got in the hacks.And other lad got in the peutoet to Ashington not booked.As the driver could not help him self .I will take you on your word & leave you to deal with this .As that is what you have posted on here in the past.If the driver wishes to call me a lier then I will take my proof else where. AND FOR LOST THE PLOT. IVE HAD MY SHIT.
THANKS FOR THE THE OFFER TO COME TO THE OFFICE.I WILL PASS ON THAT & NOT BECAUSE IVE GOT NO BALLS.I JUST COULD NOT SEE US HITTING IT OFF.

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Ian shanks March 28, 2009 at 3:12 pm

@NEWCASTLE HACK,

your correct the lad did ring the office and book a taxi, which he may have been told 10 or 15 mins (which is about standard at that time of night) but the the driver of the Peugeot became free after a no job and was sent the booking from that lad which he happened to be on top of !!

was it just luck that i identified the correct car ?? no its because that’s what really happened the driver has confirmed exactly what you have said, and he agrees he made the lad ring the office so what has he done wrong but be in the right place at the right time !!

i don’t expect you to hit it off with me as i don’t want friends their bloody pests !!

but i would like to prove to you that not every car we have is out their pinching your work.

my offer stands but, guess your concerned you may be proven wrong on a lot of things ! but as long as we live to fight another day !!

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BLT driver and proud of it March 28, 2009 at 12:37 pm

@NEWCASTLE HACK, i stand to be corrected but i dont think Blueline have a burgundy 405 in the fleet mate, i’m not trying to split hairs but wrong information like type of cars etc could land innocent drivers in severe trouble

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NEWCASTLE HACK March 28, 2009 at 1:55 pm

@BLT driver and proud of it, The driver you want to talk to is the driver of the peugeot MDO2 TAU You will find he had words with one of the hack drivers as he had picked the lads mate up to go to hebburn. The one going to ashington phoned your office & were told 10 to 15 mins.One decided he could not wait that long.And as they had all ready asked the drivers if they were booked with the reply of yes from both.One decided to get in a hack.But the peugeot could not help him self.Im sure you can check with the desk clark about the phone call.I leave you to deal with it as that was your word.But if this driver comes back & calls me a lier then I will deal with it my self.AND TO LOST THE PLOT IVE HAD MY SHIT.

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Blt driver and proud of it March 28, 2009 at 2:02 pm

@NEWCASTLE HACK, i know that car and its a 406 not a 405, simple mistakes can cost dearly. Anyway, im not interested in then if the break the law, i keep my house in order and do the job correctly, you should address your last posting to Ian Shanks, not me but you still haven’t said how you know it was a CB radio he has?

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Ian shanks March 28, 2009 at 7:39 am

lost the plot !

i named the cars that should be there so it looks like it may just be bad minded hacks that see bad in everything everyone does but themselves

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Admin March 28, 2009 at 11:34 am

@Ian shanks, Ian some time ago you invited people to name and shame because you wanted to know what your cars were doing. It would take me some time but I could probably dig that comment of yours out. I happen to know NEWCASTLE HACK and he’s not ‘bad minded’ he knows what he saw and he’s asking you about it. You actually led the way on this site in sensible debate but when the chips are down you just finish up bad mouthing hacks. It’s not a good way to deal with this especially as you yourself invited people to come forward with suspected flimpers. I have banned several users from this site for bad mouthing you and others the least you can do in return is be civil.

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geordie boy March 28, 2009 at 10:31 am

I seen a blueline berwick plated vehicle in town last night 27.03.09 and he had a CB, now why would he need that? eh! some years ago i knew a newcastle private hire driver who had one and was forced to remove it.

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BLT driver and proud of it March 28, 2009 at 11:46 am

@geordie boy, How do you know for sure 100% that it was a CB radio? did he stop and show you it was a CB? And while everyone seems to be doing it then while not name and shame the driver on here with reg and plate number- its like me saying i saw a black cab with an unlicenced driver last night, a bit vauge dont you think?

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MB 27 March 28, 2009 at 3:41 pm

@BLT driver and proud of it, & geordie boy

@blt driver. to know 100% that is was a CB radio would probably be by looking at the huge big whip on the rear of the vehicle.

@geordie boy. I’m a Newcastle PH driver and I used to have a CB in my car but it was because my office works around the town and myself and a few mates from the same office used them to have a laugh and to let each other know if any part of the town was closed off by police and not for any other perpose.

CB radios are a good way to keep in touch when on the road and can be a life safer if you have any bother in your car.

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Ian shanks March 28, 2009 at 2:01 pm

Admin !!

i get set a challenge to identify two cars out of our hundreds, that were outside munchies at a given time on a set date !!

low and behold i manage to pick the correct cars, this then is still not good enough,

and even thou i get the car correct he then goes onto say.

“Ian the car you want to know about is the bergandy 405.And if you come back saying he was booked to go to Ashington then your telling porkies”

NO matter what job he was there to do, he was and is getting accused of being a flimping. the booking record and voice recording of the lad booking it is here for you to hear for yourself admin ?

Please call me so you can clear my driver of this accusation ?

As i and maybe others carnt be bothered with drivers who have their minds pre set on what they think has gone on and not what has actually happened !! as it leave no point in attempting to answer anything on this site or any others !

i have explained the driver was on a “NO JOB” (which i now see was at munchies) he was approached by a lad and his friend and asked for a taxi !!! the driver instructed him if he wanted one he must ring the office, to which the lad did !! and the driver on the “NO JOB” got the fare as he was there and now in free state. His friend going to gateshead got in NEWCASTLE HACKS car and went the other way.

Well i see nothing wrong with that in anyway !!

NOW ask NEWCASTLE HACK did he see and hear the lad ring the booking to our office, and if he says no he would then be telling the porkies.

Have people got the right to ring anyone they want for a taxi, if they don’t want to pay Newcastle hack rates ???

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BLT driver and proud of it March 28, 2009 at 2:23 pm

@Ian shanks, no matter what you say Ian it will never be enough to satisfy the Best Of The Best that are The Hacks.

They just dont think its possible for Blueline to have so much work in the town and ive said many times in the past, i was more than suprised with the volume of city centre work there is at Blueline

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Am133 March 28, 2009 at 9:27 pm

@BLT driver and proud of it,
I to am suprised with the volume of city centre work there is at Blueline taxis considering they are a north tyneside taxi office and not a town centre one

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BLT driver and proud of it March 28, 2009 at 10:08 pm

@Am133, lets get this clear, BLT call centre is in north tyneside but its not illegal for then to cover work anywhere in the country as long as the booking is accepted in the licensed office and dispatched from the same………… believe me, i know, If Ian wanted he could legally he could do bookings from birmingham to london legally so long as the booking is recieved in the north tyneside office

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Ian shanks March 28, 2009 at 10:47 pm

@Am133,

so whats your opinion of this “taxi call” service run by hacks ??

now their calls are originated in the docklands of London and then diverted to the appropriate vehicles after being sorted.

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Am133 March 29, 2009 at 12:38 pm

@BLT driver and proud of it & Ian shanks

Was not having a go i was just saying it suprised me that he has more work in Newcastle City centre than most of the city centre offices but is based in North Tyneside

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MB 27 March 29, 2009 at 4:01 pm

@BLT driver I not sure if it is legel. please do read this statement on cross boarder hiring by the department of transport and correct me if I’m wrong.

. The Department takes the view that a licensed PHV can undertake a hiring which goes beyond the boundary of, or is wholly outside, its controlled district. However this is subject to a requirement that the vehicle and the driver are both licensed by the same local authority that granted a licence to the operator who arranged the hiring, and also that the operator has a licence for the area in which he intends to operate.

So what about the berwick plates!!! they are not north tyneside so are not licensed by the same local authority as blt!!!!
And BLT acording to this statement would have to have a license to work in the area in which they intend to operate.
So have BLT got a license for birmingham or london. Have they even got a license to work wholly outside the north tyneside boundry because Jesmond to the toon isn’t north tyneside.
So if I am correct and I am checking it out with licensing section Blt will need to have more licenses than the DLVA in order to work in everyone elses borough.

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hanger March 29, 2009 at 12:18 am

Can a Ncle hack driver explain to me why I was asked where I was going before being allowed to enter their Ncle Hack on Friday eve in the Bigg Market?

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andy warhol March 29, 2009 at 7:20 pm

@hanger,

simple, thats a problem that is NATION WIDE, a SMALL percentage of taxi drivers do not wish to do ‘short jobs’. Not only does this cheese the passenger off, it also cheeses the drivers behind.

More often than not the passengers are placed in the right car by the driver behind.

I always remember an interview i seen with Des o’Connor, who was calling London cabbies. He wanted a taxi to go a short distance as he had a case, the cabbie refused saying it was to short, he then said sod it i will go to my Hotel which was a couple of hours away, the driver said thats too far! he said he got a mate to pick him up!

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Terry A March 29, 2009 at 1:19 am

When plying for hire at a stand or rank a driver may refuse a fare if it will terminate outside the boundary of the Licensing Authority.
It may be that the driver did not wish to go out of the borough.

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tommy trout March 29, 2009 at 2:03 am

@Terry A, bollocks cherry picking i would say.

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Ian shanks March 29, 2009 at 8:20 am

@Terry A,

terry i would pull that argument as you are falling into the hands of why private hire cars, who will take people into other boroughs are so successful !!

if your not going to go half a mile into gateshead, two mile east into north tyneside, or 4 or 5 mile north to Northumberland then don’t argue with all the private hires in town who are willing to go anywhere !!

just admit to cherry picking for Christ sake !!!

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andy warhol March 29, 2009 at 7:29 pm

@Ian shanks,

ian it may well go on, but not on the scale that is made out on here, maybe 20 or so cars out of 780! small percentage!

what percentage of private hire come flimping in the city centre at weekends? much higher i would predict, condsidering the council can catch 10 in one short spell 12 till 3 am. but i will repeat that at least the cherrypicker is INSURED!

My guess on this is that your trying to make the hackney trade implode and focus on something that is not a major problem, compared to others. Although anyone getting robbed is harmfull to the trade, it doesnt happen every night or every job! And this is something that happens World Wide! Often I have had my eyes taken out for a taxi abroad! Surely you must have too, or do blueline stretch as far as Marbella!

and ian, i dont know what level of tint is in the mondeo youre talking about, but you must feel that there SHOULD be a level on tint, i’m guessing that some young ladies traveling alone might not feel comfortable in the back of a car where nobody passing can see her in there.

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andy warhol March 29, 2009 at 7:41 pm

@andy warhol,

and also ian, what is a private hire or out of twon doing when he’s parked up touting for work, knockiing back little jobs and then nicking the jobs of greater distance,,,

does he have insurance?

will he charge his ‘office rates’?

does this happen on a much greater scale everyweekend?

and are the public safer in a ‘cherrypicking’ newcastle hack than they are in a taxi that they ASSUME is from newcastle?

my personal opinion is that a cherrypicking hack is a much safer option than a cherrypicking flimper ian, dont you think.

but it seems that some here wish to try and convince that every hack is out there to choose or rob, is this to divert our eyes onto each other? the public eye? or enforcements?

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Ian shanks March 29, 2009 at 8:44 pm

@andy warhol,

you think 20 is a small percentage !!

my reply is “its takes one tree to make a million matches but one match will destroy a million trees”

level of tint should be accepted as what the manufacturer puts in the cars.

but are your saying the girl in the back of the car is unsafe with you the driver who has had a ENHANCED CRB and been found to be fit and proper ?? can you not trust yourself andy ?

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SC March 29, 2009 at 8:52 pm

@andy warhol, you seem to be over looking the damage a cherry picker is doing to your hack trade, Joe public getting a knock back from a cherry picking hack may very well make him pre book a private hire next time he’s out to ensure he’s not pissing about trying to get home, then once he’s been given the same journey at a lower rate do you think he’s not going to continue to use private hire? once less at the ranks, times that by a few per cherry picker every night and you can see a decline in trade

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Terry A March 29, 2009 at 2:38 am

No way. There are rules and regulations. If you don’t like them…..get out of the trade.

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andy warhol March 30, 2009 at 4:02 pm

@ian shanks & SC,

whats that 20 cars out of 780, 2%? Are we ever going to iron out every problem in the trade?

And ian you didnt answer, whats worse, insurance or NO insurance?

who’s eyes are you trying to divert i wonder …

and trust myself? of course.
but if you read what i said CORRECTLY, some ladies traveling alone at night might feel unconfortable in the back of a car with blacked out windows, as some of the cars are on the road with …

sc,

the amount of times i have took someone home who has called me a robbing b***k bastard (car i’m assuming) and that they wont be using a hack again, only for the next week to see them getting into another hack! people when there drunk simply say things that they wouldnt normally say, and they have short memories! and as for booking a taxi, MOST people who go out simply DO NOT set a time to go home, which pretty much screws your argument!

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SC March 30, 2009 at 10:51 pm

@andy warhol, people dont need to set a time to go home at the start of the night, which is why we do ASAP jobs.

at the end of the day the its the hacks that are complaining about the lack of trade on this site and the private hire offices that are fully booked? public are voting with their feet

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taxi 112 March 29, 2009 at 1:15 pm

@terry a
of course its chrerry picking u park on the rank and take your chance might be a good job or a shite job thats the gamble u take when u park on the rank no one likes doing the crap jobs but why should another car on the rank have to do the shite u dont want to i have been a nt hack driver 15 years and i dont knock fares back just because they are going around the corner much as i dont like doing them u just do it and come bk and join the que again so i think its time u got out the trade if u want to pick and chose your jobs

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Ian shanks March 29, 2009 at 6:52 pm

mb27

your comment below says “licensed PHV” this has nothing to do with hackneys working as PHV that’s what the court case was about to a certain degree in fact you don’t even need a operators license to operate hackneys !!

so sorry to burst your bubble

The Department takes the view that a licensed PHV can undertake a hiring which goes beyond the boundary of, or is wholly outside, its controlled district. However this is subject to a requirement that the vehicle and the driver are both licensed by the same local authority that granted a licence to the operator who arranged the hiring, and also that the operator has a licence for the area in which he intends to operate.

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MB 27 March 30, 2009 at 3:12 pm

@Ian shanks,
Ok Ian well spotted.
The oft (office of Fair trade)has this statement.

Cross border hiring
7.2 Taxis can take passengers from within their licensed area to other LAs but cannot accept bookings for passengers or ply for hire outside the area in which they are licensed.

This is obviously aimed at genuine Hackney carriages IAN.

7.2 cont. PHVs can take passengers from any point to any other providing the PHV driver, vehicle and operator are
licensed in the same area.

This is obviously aimed at Privaye hire IAN.

Now if you have a hackney carriage you cann’t accept bookings or ply for hire outside the area in which you are licesed unless of course you are working out of area as a erm!! what are they called again erm!! Thats it!! A Private Hire Vehicle. So if the hackney carriage is working out side of its area as a private hire vehicle the surley that driver and vehicle would then be subject to the laws relating to the private hire industry.
Please correct me if I’m wrong as I’m genuinely interested.

Now on the subject of bursting bubbles.
Berwick council have a Specifications of Approved Roof Signs statement which Is giving to all new applicant as part of their application pack. The statement mentions that all hackneys must have a roof sign. It them explains the exact specifications of the roof sign. Really it cann’t be made any clearer.
On Thursday 19th March 2009 these cars were working in and around Newcastle city centre.
plate no 1711 blt No top sign
plate no 2015 blt No top sign
plate no 1955 blt No top sign
Plate no 1511 blt No top sign
plate no 1764 Lansdowne wrong top sign
Plate no 1204 blt No top sign
Plate no 1543 blt No top sign
reg NV05 YPM blt No top sign (couldn’t see plate)
On Friday the 20th March 2009
Plate no 1728 blt No top sign
Plate no 1678 blt No top sign
Plate no 1461 blt No top sign
Plate no 1205 blt No top sign (bowfell ave 2:45 am)
Plate no 1450 blt No top sign (grainer street 3:15 am)
NA54 FCO lansdowne No visible plate. (grainger st 4:14 am)
On Saturday 21 st March 2009
Plate no 2015 blt No top sign (osbourne rd 21:00)
Plate no 1552 blt No top sign (newgate st)
Plate no 1483 blt No top sign (grainer street)
Plate no 1820 blt No top sign (1:20 am)
On sunday 22nd March 2009
Plate no 1589 blt No top sign (magic flame midnight)
Plate no 1233 byker & waterline wrong top sign (12:10 am)
Plate no 2015 blt No top sign (00:50 am)
Plate no 1646 blt No top sign (1:15 am)
Plate no 1985 blt No top sign
On monday 23rd March 2009
Plate no 1251 Chapel park wrong top sign (2:15 am)
On tuesday 24th march 2009
Plate no 1655 blt No top sign (12:50 am jesmond rd)
On Wednesday 25th March 2009
Plate no 1554 blt No top sign (grainger st 2:15am)
Plate no 1551 blt No top sign (FLIMPED on grainger st 23:50 pm)
On Thursday 26th March 2009
Plate no 102 blt No top sign (grainger st 2:20am)
Reg LT03 LOD blt No top sign or visible plate (the cluny)
On Saturday 28th March 2009
Plate no 1937 bltNo top sign
On Sunday 29th March 2009
Plate no 1531 blt No top sign (1:30 am grainger st)
Plate no 1251 Chapel park wrong top sign (1:50 am grainer st)
Plate no 1728 blt No top sign (grainger st 1:50am)
YC52 ONB Lansdowne wrong top sign and No visible plate
Plate no 1847 blt No top sign (attic)
Plate no 2013 blt No top sign (pizza hut grainger st)
Plate no 1439 blt No top sign
Plate no 1424 blt No top sign
Please note these are taking on the night to early morning.
What that sound Ian I think your bubble has just popped lol.
Cheers MB 27 Al have more for you next week.

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Am133 March 30, 2009 at 3:59 pm

@MB 27,
well done mate ,

Everyone should be making observations like this every single week and e mailing the relevant licensing authority and office the cars are working !
These pricks wanna be taxis/ph vehicles the least they can do is conform to the rules !!!!!
May i say also its not just Berwick a lot of derwentside cars are flouting the rules too !!!

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HACK DRIVER March 31, 2009 at 12:36 am

@MB 27, WELL DONE MATE.I WISH MORE DRIVERS GOT OF THERE ARSES & NAMED & SHAMED.BETTER STILL WITH PHOTOS AS I KNOW ALL LICENSING AUTHORITYS ARE WATCHING THIS SITE & NEED AS MUCH HELP AS POSSIBLE.TO MANY DRIVERS SIT BACK & DONT TAKE A INTREST IN THERE TRADE & ALOW OTHERS TO DO THE FIGHTING FOR THEM.THEN SIT BACK & MOAN ABOUT WHAT THEY ONCE HAD.BUT TOLATE THE DAMAGE IS DONE.THE NORTH TYNESIDE DRIVERS WILL CONFIRM THAT.

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North Star March 29, 2009 at 8:01 pm

A bigger issue me thinks is how the hell can certain individuals hold more than one plate.It should be one plate per person no exceptions.
I wish the bloody councils would get a grip, how can one person drive more than one car at a time.
It bloody stinks, it stops individuals the chance to earn a good living while the holders of multiple plates(eh how)get richer and richer.
IT BLOODY STINKS COUNCILS SORT IT OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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andy warhol March 29, 2009 at 8:13 pm

@North Star,

i was there when someone asked the council about this, nothing they can do.

it would seem farer, to be one plate per one person, and non transferable. But, and heres the but, what if you’re off sick for a while, you will need to hire the car and plate out to cover the bills, and what about those who do not wish to ‘own’ there own car? should they just leave the trade then? I know some ‘older’ drivers who have been around when deregulation has come in, and STILL had no inclination to own there own car!

2 sides to this one, depends on your situation as to which side of the fence your on.

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John D March 29, 2009 at 9:22 pm

@andy warhol, Ask North Star if he owns or rents!!!!!!!!!

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smudger March 29, 2009 at 11:36 pm

A lot of owner/drivers who want one plate one owner also have short memories because if it were not that multiple plate holders existed then them people would not have been given the chance to come into the trade.Fair do’s,some people bought a plate before they had even sat behind the wheel of a cab,but the majority started out by renting from a multiple plate holder.Its a bit like when the council issued plates,as soon as certain people got one it was a case of i am alright jack and they wanted the plates capped.Also as was mentioned above some people prefer to rent and some people prefer to own,thats the way it should be.

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john dodds March 30, 2009 at 2:59 am

@smudger, I agree with what you say on this,smudger,BUT its a situation that will never arise,the 1 owner/1 plate idea.
Even in London,where a plate must be handed back,and not sold on,you still have companies that rent out cabs,and the genius i was told about in local/national government whose idea was to make plates worthless,thereby removing any value on the plate.If the plate is worthless,then it goes without saying that the job is worthless too,so who is going to operate a business that is worthless.
The minute I pick a job up,say for £5.00,then my plate is worth £5.00,so how do you get someone to work for nothing.
Also as you say,some drivers prefer to rent,others prefer to own,and I know myself there is very little difference between owning and renting now,after all off takes.

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spook June 4, 2009 at 9:07 pm

@smudger,
simple rent off the council

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smudger June 5, 2009 at 2:10 am

@spook, Admins reply at the bottom of this page says it all spook!
We would all end up being shafted and dictated to and ripped off!
Is that what you want?

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John D March 29, 2009 at 9:21 pm

@North Star, Hello Stephen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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hanger March 29, 2009 at 9:10 pm

I took a guy from Stowell Street to Shearers yesterday -
The fare was £1.80 but I got a fiver! Would a hack do this fare
for the same? Admittedly the distance was short but would
the hack drivers refuse if they knew they were getting
a fiver?

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Private hire driver NCLE March 29, 2009 at 9:46 pm

@hanger, As far as I know some of the Newcastle hacks who sit outside of McDonalds on Grainger St tell customers that there is a £5.00 minimum fare for short jorneys for example from McDonalds to Liquid.

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Micky P March 29, 2009 at 9:41 pm

@ Ian Shanks, “its takes one tree to make a million matches but one match will destroy a million trees”
You could also apply that to a Flimper who voids his insurance!

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hanger March 29, 2009 at 10:18 pm

@ Micky P, Surely anyone who flimps and therefore in not insured is not ablve the law and any incident or accident occuring would get short change from BLT. Also many ‘passengers’ know the score and are so desparate to get home or their next destination, they know they are picking up taxis at a cheaper, illegal, rate. So it’s their fault if something goes wrong. I would say that the majority of punters, drunk or sober, understand if they have pre-booked a taxi, picked up a genuine hack or are flimping. Like many thins in life, people are prepared to take risks – whether that is speeding, being over the limit in the morning, driving without insurance, they take risks at ‘their’ own risk.

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hanger March 29, 2009 at 10:21 pm

@ Micky P, Surely anyone who flimps and therefore in not insured is not above the law and any incident or accident occuring would get short change from BLT. Also many ‘passengers’ know the score and are so desperate to get home or their next destination, they know they are picking up taxis at a cheaper, illegal, rate. So it’s their fault if something goes wrong. I would say that the majority of punters, drunk or sober, understand if they have pre-booked a taxi, picked up a genuine hack or are flimping. Like many things in life, people are prepared to take risks – whether that is speeding, being over the limit in the morning, driving without insurance, they take risks at ‘their’ own risk. It doesn’t make it right but people are fickle. I don’t ever flimp by the way. I have been approached many times but my livelihood relies on my licence being in tact, thank you.

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Brian BLT March 30, 2009 at 1:58 pm

To all you sad hacks
The bottom line is you are to exspensive to use and this will be backed up by all customers i pick up without having to flimp them.
My niece was picked up in town on friday night and asked to go to cramlington when she nodded of in back of black cab only to wake up beside debenhams at the metro centre when she questioned the driver he replied it was a quick way to cramlngton. So dont come on here crying on about knowledge tests and flimpers first and formost get your own house in order you need to put your toys back in the pram

A proud blue line diver

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andy warhol March 30, 2009 at 4:17 pm

@Brian BLT,

come on brian, prove it, whats the drivers plate number, hoy it up here! surely your niece didnt just leave it at that!

Well Brian, the bottom line is we are more expensive than blueline,,, yet as i have said on a NUMBER of times that when people moan that they could have saved x amount of pounbds getting a BLT home as they had in, i tell them they should have booked one! Always the same, they never KNOW when they are going home! simple!

also Brian, the cost of a kebab is £3.00 local compared to £6.00 in the city, beer,,, more expensive,,, payinng to get into a club, what no book to just sign!!!

the reality is brian is MOST people know that when they go for a drink, a meal, a TAXI in the city centre it’s going to be slightly more expensive! And if someone goes to the bother of flinmping do you hounestly, hand on heart believe he will charge blueline rates! come on hack drivers, how many times have we heard ‘i was charged double that last week’ what car was it ‘errr silver i think’ EXACTLY!!!

so i’ll throw my toys into YOUR pram, and say firstly ‘do you think we have crystal balls’ ‘magic powers to see all that goes on’ YOU should have took the time to educate your niece on what to do if she ever had bother with a taxi driver!
GET HIS PLATE NUMBER!

admin, is it just me or lately is there an influx of private hire drivers comming on here making comments that they refuse to or cannot back up regarding hackney drivers! When the reality is there is MORE crimes committted by private hire drivers in one weekend than all the newcastle hackney trade in 1 year i’ll bet!

there is no one who is sane of mind would say that a ligitimate hackney driver refusing a short job, is as bad as a private hire driver with god knows what plate, voiding his insurance, acting unlawfully, picking up a passenger (flimping) and taking them to there destination on an increased tarriff!

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Admin March 31, 2009 at 12:19 am

@andy warhol, I believe the ‘Comment of The Week is from a Private Hire Driver who also sees the dangers of all these Berwick plated cars.

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HACK DRIVER March 31, 2009 at 1:19 am

@Admin, THESE DRIVERS SHOULD HAVE THERE VEHICLES SEIZED & CRUSHED IF PROVED TO BE DRIVING WITHOUT INSURANCE.WHY SHOULD IT BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR A PRIVATE HIRE & TAXI DRIVER.IT HAPPENS TO THE GENRAL PUBLIC .AS POINTED OUT IN A LOCAL PAPER JUST THIS WEEK IN THE LOCAL PAPER..ALLSO IN THE PAPERS THIS WEEK WAS THE STORY ON HOW THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES UP & DOWN THE COUNTRY WERE USING CAMERAS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PUT THERE TO COMBAT TERRORISM IN THIS COUNTRY. ARE NOW BEING USED TO CATCH TAXIS THROWING LITTER OUT OF THERE CARS & HELPING TOWARDS CATCHING DRIVERS FOR OVER CHARGING.SO WHY CANT THEY BE USED TO HELP THE LA IN THERE FIGHT AGAINST FLIMPING.

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john dodds March 31, 2009 at 4:18 am

Just 1 question,or point to mention…regardless of who these `out of area` cars run for,what is going to happen at 00.01 tonight,when officially we are into April 1 and Berwick council,Tynedale and Derwentside all cease to exist.
Now I was never any good at maths or politics(hated both actually) and related to Einstein im not,BUT,if you are touting in town for work and you have say a Berwick plate covering the hole in your bumper,or acting as a spare headrest on the back self,what happens to your insurance,as so far as I know,a council that does not legally exist,cannot issue licenses for taxis or anything else. Therefore,if said vehicle has a plate issued by a council that no longer exists,then I would say the vehicle is no longer licensed and should be off the road.
Certainly if the license is now invalid,surely so is the insurance as of 00.01 on April 1.
This is true of tax disc`s so therefore any car on a berwick or out of area plate seen working after 00.00 on wednesday morning should be reported for driving with no insurance(if carrying passengers).
Right or wrong….?

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jimmy d March 31, 2009 at 10:14 am

@john dodds,

assumptions..assumptions,i can see your logic in this statement john but before reporting these cars and having possible,probable innocent drivers pulled by police,i would suggest you phone county hall and check the legality of the licenced cars in question,innocent until proven guilty..or do we tar law abiding drivers as criminals because we THINK its not right or it dosnt suit us

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delboy March 31, 2009 at 10:16 am

@john dodds, I work for blyth and have been told as of the 1st the licence’s & plate’s of all 6 district’s will become northumberland council’s as of the 1st april. So still legally can work for now!.

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john dodds March 31, 2009 at 10:40 am

@delboy, Thanks for that delboy,I had assumed as much for legitimate drivers working in their local ares,and i would imagine for you its just a matter of take 1 plate off and swap for the new plate,as in morpeth,alnwick…etc.
Lets hope it all goes smoothly.

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Private hire driver NCLE March 31, 2009 at 12:20 pm

@john dodds, WRONG!!
It looks like John Dodds has been taking stupid pills again.
Only an idiot would be stupid enough to waste people’s time by reporting them.

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tc March 31, 2009 at 5:19 am

do people know that the hackney carriage is the only true form of public transport left ? it is still the only form of transport where the general public can say yes or no to a tariff rise.bus`s trains , plane`s, P/h`s & others alike set there own..

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ian shanks June 10, 2009 at 8:02 am

@tc, what you also need to shout about is that we are the ONLY 24hour, door to door service available,providing a element of safety.When i say “we” it is meant as the industry, all of us not just blue line.

we need to shout about the the fact that if there are over 7,000 drivers alone in tyne and wear earning a minimum of £600 per week our industry generates over 4.2 million of revenue into the area each week. and this is just the tip of what our industry brings to the north east.

We all need to realize the importance of what we do, what we provide, and the revenue we circulate into the local community by doing what we do!

this is what you need to hit your powers to be with, facts that they dont realize and will shock them when made aware of.

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hack man June 10, 2009 at 10:06 am

@ian shanks, how can you say you are the only 24 hour door to door service? do dean taxis in gateshead not run 24 hours every day of the year?

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ian shanks June 10, 2009 at 11:14 am

@hack man,

when i say “we” it is meant as the industry, all of us not just blue line. read the article again

now i know why i should not come on here !!

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hacky hack June 11, 2009 at 10:44 pm

@hack man, @ian shanks, how can you say you are the only 24 hour door to door service? do dean taxis in gateshead not run 24 hours every day of the year?

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john June 10, 2009 at 11:36 am

@ian shanks, are you for real? “over 7,000 drivers alone in tyne and wear earning a minimum of £600 per week!”

This statments show how out of touch with the reality of the taxi trade, maybe next time you want to “observe what is happening on the street” you should get your arse in a car for a week and see how many hours you’d have to work to earn (TAKE HOME) £600!!!! if it was that easy we’d be driving around in new Audi’s and living in £750k houses

It down to greed by operators, who even in this economy are still taken drivers on, despite work load slowing down.

Don’t come out with “everyone of my drivers are” because I am one of them, and am working 50hrs plus a week and not taking home anywhere near that and nor are any of my mates!

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ian shanks June 10, 2009 at 11:50 am

@john,

john, do i mention take home pay ? NO

do you really work 50 hours or is that what you believe you work !!

lets go through your work pattern together and see what you are really doing ?????????

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john June 10, 2009 at 12:47 pm

@ian shanks,

here you go Ian last weeks hours

Mon to Thurs 10pm until 2am 16hrs
Friday 4pm to 5 am 13hrs
Saturday 5pm to 5am 12hrs
Sunday 5pm to 1am

You’re right only 49 hours

btw you might want to look up the word earning,

“earnings, the excess of revenues over outlays in a given period of time including depreciation and other non-cash expenses”

in other words “take home”

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BIG DAVE June 11, 2009 at 3:46 pm

@john,Sorry John but Ian Is right your just not working the 60hrs + a week to earn £600 a week. You must be a right lazy sod. I think you need to go in & have a word with Ian so he can tell you how to earn that sort of money. As you must not have the done the job for long. I think where your going wrong is that you need to forget that you have a family & that you do not need to see your kids. As its all in your mind that you need to see your family. The job & money come first. Not your family. Me my self worked as a Newcastle Hack on Tuesday from 21.30hrs to 05.00hrs for £60 & Wednesday for £65 I have all so worked today from 11.00hrs till 15.15 for £12 & that’s on the top. Not after off takes. Ian Shanks knows fine well what every one is taken .As it’s his business to know. That’s why he so successful at what he does. But he all so knows the only ones making that sort of money are drivers who are willing to sacrifice there family life.

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john June 11, 2009 at 9:04 pm

@BIG DAVE, you might be right, 10 years in the trade am still finding my feet, maybe I should go into the office for them to waste an hour of my time again looking over my jobs and working practice just to say “every where is slow at the moment”?

I’d be more impressed if Ian worked a weekend night, by his system rules and posted his job list, miles driven, cash taken in a 12 hrs shift with a 20 min food break

it clear that works not that good or his sister/co owner would not be out driving untill the early hours

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hopeless April 6, 2009 at 3:53 pm

It is the first time I have read toomanytaxis it is very enlightening. Hope to be on more often keep the good work up Admin.
Thank you.

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thirsty mother trucker April 7, 2009 at 8:09 pm

Hi this is my first time posting but i have been an avid reader for some time and am also a north tyneside hack owner! i have a couple of things to say as follows

@ian shanks
I agree with you not having the roof signs on your berwick plated vehicles and also think that its wrong for north tyneside council to make you display them even if they are being used predomanantly to work ph outside there borough if they were working within berwick i agree they should be displayed.

@lighthousekeeper i recently enquired about having cctv fitted in my vehicle 6 cameras in total 1 pointing from the front and the rear of the vehicle 2 pointing to forward and rear facing seats and 1 on either side doors (i have a large vehicle as admin knows!) and was told by north tyneside council that i would have to wait as cctv had not been approved for north tyneside as yet and that it would be going through the process of being approved in early april so im waiting patiently to find out thr outcome but it was relayed to me that it would be passed and there would be a company who would supply and fit provide the relevant stickers etc etc for a discounted rate so fingers crossed it wont be long!

p.s admin my stickers look the biz!!!

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Shadow April 15, 2009 at 7:00 pm

Hi, been a reader of this site for a while now, interesting at times, plain old tit for tat at others, still gets the points out though, just have a question for thirsty mother trucker, how come you need the councils blessing for cctv, you dont ask the council when you put it up at your house, or your works premises, the buses didn’t need permission, so how come a black cab does, surely it’s your place of work and as long as you display the relevant stickers to inform the public that cctv is in operation it should have nothing to do with the council.

P.S. I’m a NT hack too

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Admin June 4, 2009 at 11:15 pm

@spook, If you go that way you will end up with a scenario similar to ireland,not that the council is permitted to make profits.What they did in ireland was give licensing of Taxis to a private company,now you have to buy your licence for 6,500 Euros and pay 1,250 Euros each year for the priveledge,understandably there are no private hire just thousands of very unhappy Hacks. Watch Video Here: http://www.toomanytaxis.com/2009/05/29/taxi-deregulation-video/

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BL Driver June 8, 2009 at 7:52 pm

@Admin, Admin,Do you have any more on the Berwick/Northumberland carry on? like a new policy or anything!

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Admin June 10, 2009 at 2:21 am

@BL Driver, Yes! All will be revealed soon.

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Annoyed Newcastle hack June 12, 2009 at 5:04 am

@Admin, Come on admin, we are still waiting. Either you know nowt or the bandits have got their way, which is it?

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Admin June 11, 2009 at 10:53 pm

@hacky hack, That’s not what he said! Read it again!

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hacky hack June 12, 2009 at 1:44 am

twas a joke ,thought id lighten the mood

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Admin June 12, 2009 at 10:46 am

@Annoyed Newcastle hack, Some things are worth the wait, But you wouldn’t want to cause more trouble by jumping the gun would you! From the day Judge Symons made his ruling, Their days were numbered.Nothing can change that!

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outoftownhack June 14, 2009 at 3:09 am

Here is an interesting quote from blueline taxis july monthly news letter it goes QUOTE We recommend that all out of townhackney carriage drivers start migrating over to North Tyneside there are various rumours floating around the trade about the future of such licences.Blueline have put together a disc that has most of the knowledge information on it for use on your home pc. Following the high court decision on November the 5th 2008 many councils are adopting a policy that they will predominantly work in the issuing licenced area. This would be very difficult for any council to enforce from a taxi licence prospective. When officers are asked the question DEFINE WHAT HOURS ARE PREDOMINANT they struggle to commit to a definitive answer. END QUOTE

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john June 14, 2009 at 1:21 pm

@outoftownhack, Blue Line would be better telling them to migrate to Newcastle as thats where we PREOMINANTLY work! all the lads with black cars a f*cked lol

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Andy Warhol June 14, 2009 at 7:40 pm

@john,

didnt seem that way this weekend, when thanks to excellent covert enforcement operations, and traffic enforcement doing there bit, there was notibly less ph/out of towners to be seen in the city!

it seems only those who ‘dont give a toss’ are still doing it blatantly, RN05 ODV black audi outside mushroom on friday, and N13 GLC (not a taxi!) outside Ameens last night and Rewind friday night, and passed me at another point last night.

on friday i even picked up a gateshead driver who was taking friday off due to newcastle licecning being ‘shit hot at the moment’, well i took GREAT PLEASURE in telling him that it isnt a one off, and is a sign of things changing … for the better.

i’ve always said i dont mind getting checked by licencing AS LONG AS they do the flimpers aswell.

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ian shanks June 10, 2009 at 3:03 pm

@john,
john in that case i need to see if you took advantage of all the hours you claimed you worked for the money you say you achieved. as you might have been at the casino for some hours or at home on elongated breaks, or simply not working the system correctly etc etc. so go let go through it together and work it out, but i guess you wont want to do that !!!

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BIG DAVE June 12, 2009 at 3:41 am

@john, John I have just got in & it’s now 03.00hrs & have made another £58 & it’s not worth going back to town to join the rest of the cars that are ranked up all over the place. With the chance I won’t even get a job. So decided to save on the fuel and not go back. By the way john I stuck it out till 17.15hrs for another £5 giving me £17 for 7hrs & 15 mins during the day .And 6hrs for £58 tonight. That’s a total of £75 for 13.15 hrs & the off takes are to come of that. All so have had 1 repair this week for £180
All so john if I was you I would not take him up on his offer of coming in the office as he will probly want the data back & send you packing as you are not willing to put up & shut up. It’s just a pity more private hire drivers did not speak out with the truth.

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