Over the last few weeks, we have since the “Chocolate Liqueur Driver”
incident, the trade, both “Hail and Ride” and “Pre-Booked in Advance” have
united as one in condemnation of this “Foolish Driver” and we have had much
debate and much comedy has been written to do with the incident involving
the “Private Hire Company” and the “Drivers” from within both industries,
and if there is one good thing to come out of this, it is the potential
scripts for a bloody good comedy called “On the Taxis”, but seriously all
reading this, if there is one thing that our “Pantomime Theme” has done it
is unite us all to be singing from one sheet, therefore proving we can work
together in the recession to brighten up the days with our humour, without
any of us falling out, when we are the “butt” of another persons joke and
humour, because we are “Geordies” who do not take life too seriously, even
in this recession.
My name is David Walls, and along with Ian Shanks, David Wilson, Alan
Fidler, Marvyn Fereday and possibly Paul Irwin(Not totally sure, but maybe
he is one of the hidden people behind the “East Coast Community Theatre”
comments ?), what we have shown is that as “Adults” we can talk openly about
issues in a responsible way through comedy, to address the problems of the
two different “Hire and Reward” Industries, that are “Hail and Ride” and
“Pre-Booked in Advance”, that should always remain a “Two Tier System” that
allows both to prosper in their own ways, within the Law, but Guidelines do
need to be applied and obeyed, that are set out by North Tyneside Council,
with the “Deputy Traffic Commissioner” the man who signs the “Council
Licences” on behalf of the Elected Councillors of North Tyneside, making
them Legal and Lawful.
I thank everyone for there time in making us all realise we can work
together, and hopefully the Licensing Forum will allow us all the chance to
get off our chests any problems we have, without falling out with one
another, as things will be said at these meetings that all do not agree
with, but then accept there is a serious point, to what is being said at the
Licensing Forum.
“Respect” needs to be earned, and not given away purely because someone has
more money than someone else, I would conclude.
Just a thought, and this is not an apology to David Wilson!
Thanks
Dave Walls
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Dave,
I didn’t think it was, but you are right in what you say about “working together”.
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@David Wilson,
yes he is right.
but it should be the trades & licencing ‘working together’ not some bloke who forsees this as his next payday!
again david, am i right in thinking you helped STOP a council issuing more hackney plates, yet you LITTERED the streets of the north east with berwick plated vehicles, please confirm this david. as IF this is the case can YOU see why the trade have a problem with you popping up cliaming to be the answer to all our prayers!
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Ref to Article entitled “Pause for thought by Dave Walls”
I agree with you that we were united (no, not the old Bus Company mate), especially regular visitor and BLT Driver SC who came on here and called Mr Lech a blatant Drunk despite being a BLT Driver and supporter, however we can all have a bit banter and dig at each other, but sadly your mates Mr Wilson and Mr Shanks threaten people with legal action when the “Home Truths” come out, so you will not get us all united.
Anyway Mr Walls why do you keep wandering if Mr Irwin will join the Taxi trades version of the G8 Summit??? (AKA the Forum)
I respect you want to make changes for the better within the Trade, but you will not get far with Operators at your side, try discussing a Cap on PH Plates, see if they agree with you then eh?
If you want to make a difference to the Trade, get the REAL Drivers on side and at your Forum, not the Generals, Politicians, Pen Pushers and wanabee Suits!!!!
Anyway I thought “Butler” hated management at Luxton and district Traction Co.
Once again Dave you will not achieve getting us to work together, if we can easily threaten someone with Legal Action, you should know that!
Regards
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@E.Coast community Theatre,
Thank You, East Coast Community Theatre.
I did attend the Licensing Forum this morning, and I will for now wait for Admin to post what happened and what was discussed, but I think you will find me wanting Paul Irwin and Ian Shanks along with David Wilson and Alan Fidler in the room at the Licensing Forum, was so that Pinnochio could not elaborate stories of untrue proportions to these people.
I personally respectfully said hello to Paul,Ian,Alan and David, who greeted me with a respectful, hello Dave reply, meaning we were able to speak to each other in a civilized manner, there was no big arguements, and we did all get things off our chests that needed to be said, without any big falling out or threats needing to be issued of “Legal Action” as we all were respectful of each other throughout the meeting.
As I say, I will let Admin tell all the story of todays events, but it was not a waste of time, and the next meeting has been arranged with 3 hours to discuss topics and the new time of the meeting is 0930 hours to 1300 hours with a refreshment break, but welcome to Anth and Sean, as two new members, with Greame Kennedy, Mick Brown and Paul Barton sending their Apologies.
Joanne Lee is now on maternity leave after giving birth to her new baby boy we were told and so CONGRATULATIONS to Joanne and the trade wish her well, and we were Introduced to the New Enforcement Officer, who is an Ex-Traffic Officer, along with the another old hand Licensing Enforcement Officer, who we all know from his Rank/Street Patrolling in the past.
Alan Newton took the minutes for the meeting and they should be interesting to read, after my comment to him about not knowing Section 56(1) of the Local Government(Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976, after working for the Council for the time he has, it was embarassing for him.
I will allow Admin, as I say to tell all on here.
Thanks
Dave Walls
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@David Walls,
Dave,
I suspect everyone in the room was confused by your reference to section 56(1), because, clearly mistakenly, you referred to the Road Traffic Act 1988!
I came home and looked it up, only to discover it’s concerned with “conditions of, and cancellation or suspension of, type approval certificates”.
A reference to the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 would certainly have made more sense, although I don’t agree with your interpretation of what it says or what its effect is.
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@David Wilson,
Hello David,
I think you will find I did reference the Road Traffic Act 1988, in relation to another piece of Legislation 40A and 40B, that by the way was actually part of the Ammendment Road Traffic Act 1991, for vehicle defects.
When I mentioned Section 56(1) of the LG(MP)Act 1976, I did it because Alan stated it had nowt to do with operators that a vehicle was faulty, and Section 56(1) clearly states;
For the purposes of this Act every contract for the hire of a private hire vehicle licensed under this Part of this Act shall be deemed to be made with the operator who accepted the booking for that vehicle whether or not he himself provided the vehicle. (This clearly means the Operator is responsible was my point, but Alan disagreed, and so I told him to read Section 56(1) and Educate Himself, but I admit I did not quote the statement)
Now David, you really should listen properly when attending these meetings, or are you just trying to make a friend with Alan Newton, because nobody liked what you said about the Berwick Fleet you Licensed.
Especially when you were asked, if you were talking about the 49 vehicles that worked in Berwick, or were you talking about the 600 figure was quoted, but you corrected the figure to be 750 vehicles, and so I said did you go to Wales, and then you said, you did not and nor did you do The Ridings Areas, but I pointed out, how could you do Enforcement out of your Area, and the Ex-Policemen raised there eyebrows in acknowledgement, as they were thinking the same thing, with those areas you said you did carry out enforcement in, that were not within Berwick meaning your Berwick Byelaws do not apply out side Berwick and therefore no enforcement powers.
David, do not bother to respond with “Oh yes I did have enforcement powers” like in a pantomime, as it does get boring that old line.
Thanks respectfully
Dave Walls
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@David Walls,
With respect Dave, if you wish to assert that council officers do not have powers outside their authority’s area, perhaps you could point to an Act of Parliament or a piece of case law that supports your view.
On the other hand, I will rely upon the provisions of section 101 of the Local Government Act 1972, which goes so far as providing that one council may delegate powers to another council.
Furthermore, there is more to be done than merely enforcing byelaws, which, coincidentally, are only enforceable in the area of the council that made them, so no-one can enforce them outside of that area in any event!
You surely aren’t suggesting that no council officer has powers to deal with an unroadworthy licensed vehicle if it’s not in the area of the council that licensed it? Or are you suggesting that?
From time to time, North Tyneside and Newcastle Councils have had forays into each other’s area; and North Tyneside’s current “test purchasing” operations have been undertaken by officers of Newcastle City Council.
If you accept they have the power to do so; and you did not challenge the propriety of that arrangement yesterday, you have no alternative to accept that what Berwick did was equally lawful.
Finally, I wouldn’t read too much into the body language of people at yesterday’s meeting, because it’s so easily misinterpreted – it may have meant so many more things than you believe!
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With respect Dave, if you wish to assert that council officers do not have powers outside their authority’s area, perhaps you could point to an Act of Parliament or a piece of case law that supports your view.
On the other hand, I will rely upon the provisions of section 101 of the Local Government Act 1972, which goes so far as providing that one council may delegate powers to another council.
Furthermore, there is more to be done than merely enforcing byelaws, which, coincidentally, are only enforceable in the area of the council that made them, so no-one can enforce them outside of that area in any event!
You surely aren’t suggesting that no council officer has powers to deal with an unroadworthy licensed vehicle if it’s not in the area of the council that licensed it? Or are you suggesting that?
From time to time, North Tyneside and Newcastle Councils have had forays into each other’s area; and North Tyneside’s current “test purchasing” operations have been undertaken by officers of Newcastle City Council.
If you accept they have the power to do so; and you did not challenge the propriety of that arrangement yesterday, you have no alternative to accept that what Berwick did was equally lawful.
Finally, I wouldn’t read too much into the body language of people at yesterday’s meeting, because it’s so easily misinterpreted – it may have meant so many more things than you believe!
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@E.Coast community Theatre, “despite being a BLT Driver and supporter” I was the driver that reported and gave a statement to the police about Mr Lech, but I have to say, it had nothing to do with his plate or origin, I’d do the same to any driver who was driving in the same condition, as I’d hope any other responsible road user would
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@SC,
Hello SC,
I fully agree with your statement, and hope that all Drivers, no matter what side of the fence they work, will congratulate you on your fine upstanding morals, and as I said in a previous post we should be proud of what you did to protect the “Investors in Passenger Safety” that you and many other responsible BLT Drivers with North Tyneside Private Hire Vehicles or North Tyneside Hackney Carriage Vehicles working at BLT would support.
The North Tyneside Hackney Carriage Vehicle Driver does not have a problem with North Tyneside Private Hire Drivers who do not flimp or go for “Out of Town” Licensing to work in North Tyneside for a North Tyneside Based Operation.
Thanks
Dave Walls
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My ears still hurt!
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